If he was the „pragmatic“ leader we were sold he would have ended it already. He’s had plenty of great opportunities to offramp but he’s white knuckle pedal to the metal on this virtue signaling nonsense.
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KageyK on
Calling it now. They will declare it a resounding success in the house after they return on the 13th.
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reggiemcsprinkles on
Why do people think that slapping a new leader on the party changes who the Liberals are? The gun grab is just another opportunity to pander for votes in Quebec.
UnionGuyCanada on
Last count had 67,000 guns. That is 67,000 guns not needed and off the streets.
Here is the issue though, it won’t solve everything. That allows people like Lilley to call it useless and a waste. It will help, but that help will be hard to measure. So much more needs to be done, namely closing the southern border to illegal US guns, but this is a step we did ourselves, so when we push on our southern neighbours, we can point to having gotten our own house in order, somewhat.
There is always more can be done, nothing will fix the whole problem, but this helps.
MountedCanuck65 on
I think what a lot of people forget that if there was enough outrage over this, it would have been scrapped.
YES there are many that loudly disagree with this, me among them, but the reality is that there’s just not enough political will power for people to care about this.
The vast majority of people, who mostly live near larger city centres / large towns, don’t care. They hear that guns are going away and that’s good in their mind.
People are more concerned over housing, cost of living, global security deteriorating etc.
I don’t like it, you don’t like it but I’d wager that the majority of Canadians don’t have this on their radar.
Hot_Restaurant_7408 on
The cancer of canada.
WiseDebt7345 on
This is Jean Chretien’s Long Gun Registry all over again.
It will cost Billions of dollars, have very low compliance, have zero measurable benefit, and will be a huge own goal that will help the conservatives next election.
Agreeable-Storm-4132 on
People keep bringing up Polytech for some reason I do not understand that was in the past. It was bad, but it is in the past.
Hawkeye_Swift on
Well, shite. About the first time I’ve ever agreed with Lilley, or the Sun more broadly. It is a performative sham of a program, intended to buy votes in Urban Montreal, that doesn’t have any meaningful impact on criminal outcomes.
Want to do real good, look at urban gangs. Stop the revolving door. Stop up the flow of firearms into Canada from the US, including the massive amount coming from border-straddling reserves.
youngboomergal on
There’d be no win from scrapping this, it wouldn’t win over the gun lobby and it risks alienating the anti gun lobby.
SirBulbasaur13 on
Yes
_bl3wb1rd_ on
a lot of money has been spent. Whose pockets got stuffed?
Spider-King-270 on
It’s not too late now and it can be undone anytime
metallicadefender on
Who cares? This isnt an issue that would bring in anyone who would ever consider voting liberal anyway. Most normal people are unconcerned by this. Even myself as a slight gun enthusiast… I just dont care. There is nothing that I would consider owning they they are removing.
Whether or not this is successful… not really bothered by it.
Tired8281 on
Buying back guns was always a ridiculous idea. Confiscate and melt down.
Jackbuddy78 on
Tell that to the Tumbler Ridge victim’s families. It will certainly save dozens of lives and do little else than that.
I don’t believe that was the case. This was planned prior to that event. It was simply announced following the event to add justification.
OverallElephant7576 on
I really am not sure why anyone cares what Brian Lilly’s opinion is on anything
Crafty_Ad_945 on
I wonder if increased border measures will address the true root of the problem. (Illegal smuggling)
SheIsABadMamaJama on
Again I agree with the sentiment. But do we need the same opinion piece 100x?
CanOfWhoopus on
I agree. Carney is doing wonderfully in international relations, but domestically he’s been questionable.
LabEfficient on
Just like the „hate speech“ laws that the liberals have likewise been relentlessly pushing, there’s an obvious agenda behind gun buyback. Hint: it is not for your safety.
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If he was the „pragmatic“ leader we were sold he would have ended it already. He’s had plenty of great opportunities to offramp but he’s white knuckle pedal to the metal on this virtue signaling nonsense.
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Calling it now. They will declare it a resounding success in the house after they return on the 13th.
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Why do people think that slapping a new leader on the party changes who the Liberals are? The gun grab is just another opportunity to pander for votes in Quebec.
Last count had 67,000 guns. That is 67,000 guns not needed and off the streets.
Here is the issue though, it won’t solve everything. That allows people like Lilley to call it useless and a waste. It will help, but that help will be hard to measure. So much more needs to be done, namely closing the southern border to illegal US guns, but this is a step we did ourselves, so when we push on our southern neighbours, we can point to having gotten our own house in order, somewhat.
There is always more can be done, nothing will fix the whole problem, but this helps.
I think what a lot of people forget that if there was enough outrage over this, it would have been scrapped.
YES there are many that loudly disagree with this, me among them, but the reality is that there’s just not enough political will power for people to care about this.
The vast majority of people, who mostly live near larger city centres / large towns, don’t care. They hear that guns are going away and that’s good in their mind.
People are more concerned over housing, cost of living, global security deteriorating etc.
I don’t like it, you don’t like it but I’d wager that the majority of Canadians don’t have this on their radar.
The cancer of canada.
This is Jean Chretien’s Long Gun Registry all over again.
It will cost Billions of dollars, have very low compliance, have zero measurable benefit, and will be a huge own goal that will help the conservatives next election.
People keep bringing up Polytech for some reason I do not understand that was in the past. It was bad, but it is in the past.
Well, shite. About the first time I’ve ever agreed with Lilley, or the Sun more broadly. It is a performative sham of a program, intended to buy votes in Urban Montreal, that doesn’t have any meaningful impact on criminal outcomes.
Want to do real good, look at urban gangs. Stop the revolving door. Stop up the flow of firearms into Canada from the US, including the massive amount coming from border-straddling reserves.
There’d be no win from scrapping this, it wouldn’t win over the gun lobby and it risks alienating the anti gun lobby.
Yes
a lot of money has been spent. Whose pockets got stuffed?
It’s not too late now and it can be undone anytime
Who cares? This isnt an issue that would bring in anyone who would ever consider voting liberal anyway. Most normal people are unconcerned by this. Even myself as a slight gun enthusiast… I just dont care. There is nothing that I would consider owning they they are removing.
Whether or not this is successful… not really bothered by it.
Buying back guns was always a ridiculous idea. Confiscate and melt down.
Tell that to the Tumbler Ridge victim’s families. It will certainly save dozens of lives and do little else than that.
“ It was Trudeau’s way of saying to the Canadian public that he was doing something in the wake of the [Nova Scotia massacre](https://torontosun.com/news/national/rcmp-confirm-all-22-victims-of-2020-mass-killing-were-firearm-related-homicides) that took place in April 2020.“
I don’t believe that was the case. This was planned prior to that event. It was simply announced following the event to add justification.
I really am not sure why anyone cares what Brian Lilly’s opinion is on anything
I wonder if increased border measures will address the true root of the problem. (Illegal smuggling)
Again I agree with the sentiment. But do we need the same opinion piece 100x?
I agree. Carney is doing wonderfully in international relations, but domestically he’s been questionable.
Just like the „hate speech“ laws that the liberals have likewise been relentlessly pushing, there’s an obvious agenda behind gun buyback. Hint: it is not for your safety.