And with the reason for criminal activity often stated (on Reddit) as being due to poverty it makes sense to reduce the amount of potential future criminals.
Jaded_Strain_3753 on
In other words high levels of low skilled immigration has increased child poverty in the UK. Entirely predictable outcome, probably a necessary outcome for our current neoliberal economic model.
rustynoodle3891 on
Might have been cheaper if they stayed where they were. Who wants to pay our prices for housing, energy, fuel and food?
kingslayyer on
many of these people will get ILR this or next year, and can start claiming benefits
which labour wanted to avoid but seems like thier backbenchers are not allowing that.
Uniform764 on
That seems like a very predictable outcome of allowing millions of people with no assets or skills to move here.
Horror_Extension4355 on
So the naysayers have a valid concern when they dare to query the long term impacts caused by uncontrolled immigration?
OobieDoobieKanoobie on
Not only does country need to bring in immigrants to drive the economy, it also needs to bring them in to give them benefits to reduce their poverty. A solution for everything!
fitzgoldy on
The positives that are banded about very often for mass immigration from the left are looking worse every report at this point.
Chopstick84 on
So what is all this net benefit talk shoved in my face for the past decade?
Anywhere_everywhere7 on
I know this may sound harsh but the government doesn’t care but regular people do and they’re donating to local charities and local food banks which will help these kids and families out but the problem is more and more poor immigrants are coming into the country and local resources are getting even more stretched and regular people are being asked to donate more or help more which isn’t fair on them.
Of course I’m not saying it’s a bad thing because no kid or person should have to go hungry no matter where they are in the world but sometimes you need to draw a line and say sorry that’s all we can do for now.
There is also the issue with serious over crowding in some schools.
smudgethomas on
Maybe they should be sent home ? They won’t be in relative poverty there.
tehe1768 on
Things simply won’t last like this its pretty simple. Iran war means costs across the economy are going up, pension spending will be up again next year, overall spending up again and taxes to boot.
Not looking good
noujest on
If anyone is wondering why the roads are fucked
Dealing with this poverty sucks up council budgets, and leaves fuck all left for non-statutory stuff like roads!
Particular_Tough4860 on
The article gives the reasons for poverty as:
– No access to benefits (NRPF status)
– High VISA and other fees
With Labour increasingly on top of the mass migration numbers (with some models showing net migration might even go negative this year), I think it is worth reviewing this.
Growing up in poverty is going to have life-long consequences for these kids as they become part of British society. We can spitefully say that was the choice of their parents, or we can accept that this affects us all. Part of demanding integration is allowing integration.
Orrery- on
I thought these people brought untold benefits to the UK
wkavinsky on
But also, way less poverty than they’d be in overseas.
Huge differences in the definition of poverty between countries – and to apply the UK definition to somewhere like India would have 60%+ of the entire population in poverty.
Direct-Key-8859 on
At this point those Labour backbenchers voting against their own party are just like the tories, willing to ingore evidence, the will of the people and their best intrests just because of their out of touch ideologly
B0797S458W on
So migrants from the third world have a low income potential? Who’d have thought it.
Weak-Fly-6540 on
It’s worth actually reading the full report.
Interviews with parents reveal a number of barriers to escaping poverty while navigating the immigration system.
• Legal barriers: Prolonged settlement routes, unaffordable visa renewal fees and NRPF have had a direct impact on families’ financial security.
• Practical barriers: Unemployment and underemployment, lack of access to childcare and substandard living conditions create additional challenges for families living in poverty.
• Social and relational barriers: Social isolation, stigma, language barriers and relationship breakdowns further isolate families from support systems and deepen financial hardship.
• Institutional barriers: Gatekeeping, discrimination, and inefficient Home Office decision-making keep families in the immigration system for longer periods, which exacerbates their financial struggles.
> children in migrant families, many of whom were born in the UK themselves and may have one British parent
should probably rethink this headline then as it implies children of immigrants that the immigrants have brought with them or brought over from another country, not British-born children that have one immigrant parent.
Economy_Ad3034 on
I can’t believe sometimes how much of a mess this country has got itself is in, and entirely predictably.
CreativeEcon101 on
If we could just use redditors negativity and attacks on immigrants in this sub as an energy source in the UK we could all reduce our energy bills by 50%.
Extra-Fig-7425 on
Why we focus on that half, what about the local half then?
erisiansunrise on
Careful, the way this sub is lately I expect to see comments like ‘ah yes, these kids being in poverty is more reason to mulch immigrant kids into nutrient paste for are crops’
Brutal_De1uxe on
Sounds like this should be some other country’s problem.
ILR and citizenship granting needs to be suspended indefinitely from yesterday. This needs to be until immigration is brought completely under control and then we can focus only on those that fill needs that British people are unable to fill.
ReligiousGhoul on
Felt like I was going mad for years by simultaneously being told we need migrants to „wipe people’s bums“ and do other horrible low paying jobs because the pay’s too low…..yet the average migrant is a net contributor.
Also, the average Brit isn’t a net contributor they’d delight in telling you….yet doesn’t want to work these low paying jobs so assumedly goes for higher paying jobs…..yet the migrants on these lower wages are net contributors??
ohsolively on
not surprising when migrant workers are exploited. even many of the professional and skilled workers are forced to take up low wage jobs when they get here in order to survive. i’ve witnessed immigrants working 60hrs+ pw and still barely making enough to cover their costs due to barely making nmw (if at all) then having to pay london rent. add on the pressures/expectation to look after anyone living in their home country.
UmAhkchuallySweaty on
This is what lefties wanted isn’t it? This is why they’ve been called everyone racist over the last few years for predicting this? Is this not ahkchually a good thing?
mattwalsh25 on
But I thought they were immediately set up with the good life in penthouses with iphones and wads of cash?
nuclear-experiment on
You folks didn’t want the dreaded EU workers and replaced us with third world economic migrants. The painfully predictable outcome was so obviously disastrous, who might have thought that would happen…
ShqueakBob on
Low skilled people who have no jobs that are on UC with multiple kids who get free healthcare, meds etc. In a world where resources are becoming limited and unemployment increasing, tax rises for the working British and non British born people here is totally unfair. Towns are totally congested
Ill_Refrigerator_593 on
Just for some context 31% of all children live in poverty compared to 46% with foreign born parents.
Appropriate_Bee_2918 on
No are you saying them lads on boats are not doctors or engineers the shock
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And with the reason for criminal activity often stated (on Reddit) as being due to poverty it makes sense to reduce the amount of potential future criminals.
In other words high levels of low skilled immigration has increased child poverty in the UK. Entirely predictable outcome, probably a necessary outcome for our current neoliberal economic model.
Might have been cheaper if they stayed where they were. Who wants to pay our prices for housing, energy, fuel and food?
many of these people will get ILR this or next year, and can start claiming benefits
which labour wanted to avoid but seems like thier backbenchers are not allowing that.
That seems like a very predictable outcome of allowing millions of people with no assets or skills to move here.
So the naysayers have a valid concern when they dare to query the long term impacts caused by uncontrolled immigration?
Not only does country need to bring in immigrants to drive the economy, it also needs to bring them in to give them benefits to reduce their poverty. A solution for everything!
The positives that are banded about very often for mass immigration from the left are looking worse every report at this point.
So what is all this net benefit talk shoved in my face for the past decade?
I know this may sound harsh but the government doesn’t care but regular people do and they’re donating to local charities and local food banks which will help these kids and families out but the problem is more and more poor immigrants are coming into the country and local resources are getting even more stretched and regular people are being asked to donate more or help more which isn’t fair on them.
Of course I’m not saying it’s a bad thing because no kid or person should have to go hungry no matter where they are in the world but sometimes you need to draw a line and say sorry that’s all we can do for now.
There is also the issue with serious over crowding in some schools.
Maybe they should be sent home ? They won’t be in relative poverty there.
Things simply won’t last like this its pretty simple. Iran war means costs across the economy are going up, pension spending will be up again next year, overall spending up again and taxes to boot.
Not looking good
If anyone is wondering why the roads are fucked
Dealing with this poverty sucks up council budgets, and leaves fuck all left for non-statutory stuff like roads!
The article gives the reasons for poverty as:
– No access to benefits (NRPF status)
– High VISA and other fees
With Labour increasingly on top of the mass migration numbers (with some models showing net migration might even go negative this year), I think it is worth reviewing this.
Growing up in poverty is going to have life-long consequences for these kids as they become part of British society. We can spitefully say that was the choice of their parents, or we can accept that this affects us all. Part of demanding integration is allowing integration.
I thought these people brought untold benefits to the UK
But also, way less poverty than they’d be in overseas.
Huge differences in the definition of poverty between countries – and to apply the UK definition to somewhere like India would have 60%+ of the entire population in poverty.
At this point those Labour backbenchers voting against their own party are just like the tories, willing to ingore evidence, the will of the people and their best intrests just because of their out of touch ideologly
So migrants from the third world have a low income potential? Who’d have thought it.
It’s worth actually reading the full report.
Interviews with parents reveal a number of barriers to escaping poverty while navigating the immigration system.
• Legal barriers: Prolonged settlement routes, unaffordable visa renewal fees and NRPF have had a direct impact on families’ financial security.
• Practical barriers: Unemployment and underemployment, lack of access to childcare and substandard living conditions create additional challenges for families living in poverty.
• Social and relational barriers: Social isolation, stigma, language barriers and relationship breakdowns further isolate families from support systems and deepen financial hardship.
• Institutional barriers: Gatekeeping, discrimination, and inefficient Home Office decision-making keep families in the immigration system for longer periods, which exacerbates their financial struggles.
[https://ippr-org.files.svdcdn.com/production/Downloads/Migration_and_poverty_Mar25.pdf](https://ippr-org.files.svdcdn.com/production/Downloads/Migration_and_poverty_Mar25.pdf)
> children in migrant families, many of whom were born in the UK themselves and may have one British parent
should probably rethink this headline then as it implies children of immigrants that the immigrants have brought with them or brought over from another country, not British-born children that have one immigrant parent.
I can’t believe sometimes how much of a mess this country has got itself is in, and entirely predictably.
If we could just use redditors negativity and attacks on immigrants in this sub as an energy source in the UK we could all reduce our energy bills by 50%.
Why we focus on that half, what about the local half then?
Careful, the way this sub is lately I expect to see comments like ‘ah yes, these kids being in poverty is more reason to mulch immigrant kids into nutrient paste for are crops’
Sounds like this should be some other country’s problem.
ILR and citizenship granting needs to be suspended indefinitely from yesterday. This needs to be until immigration is brought completely under control and then we can focus only on those that fill needs that British people are unable to fill.
Felt like I was going mad for years by simultaneously being told we need migrants to „wipe people’s bums“ and do other horrible low paying jobs because the pay’s too low…..yet the average migrant is a net contributor.
Also, the average Brit isn’t a net contributor they’d delight in telling you….yet doesn’t want to work these low paying jobs so assumedly goes for higher paying jobs…..yet the migrants on these lower wages are net contributors??
not surprising when migrant workers are exploited. even many of the professional and skilled workers are forced to take up low wage jobs when they get here in order to survive. i’ve witnessed immigrants working 60hrs+ pw and still barely making enough to cover their costs due to barely making nmw (if at all) then having to pay london rent. add on the pressures/expectation to look after anyone living in their home country.
This is what lefties wanted isn’t it? This is why they’ve been called everyone racist over the last few years for predicting this? Is this not ahkchually a good thing?
But I thought they were immediately set up with the good life in penthouses with iphones and wads of cash?
You folks didn’t want the dreaded EU workers and replaced us with third world economic migrants. The painfully predictable outcome was so obviously disastrous, who might have thought that would happen…
Low skilled people who have no jobs that are on UC with multiple kids who get free healthcare, meds etc. In a world where resources are becoming limited and unemployment increasing, tax rises for the working British and non British born people here is totally unfair. Towns are totally congested
Just for some context 31% of all children live in poverty compared to 46% with foreign born parents.
No are you saying them lads on boats are not doctors or engineers the shock