I mean more available workers is a good thing for the unemployed right?
Also 100 jobs in five months is not good
Thats less than 1 a day
Historical_Cobbler on
Are they not teaching people to use temp agencies?
I’ve had 2 permanent jobs from starting as an agency worker. Applying for jobs is only one method for getting paid work.
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Barry_Umenema on
I think I’ve been incredibly lucky with employment. I’m 40 and I’ve applied for 5 jobs since I left school 25 years ago, and I’ve had 4 of them.
Minute_Ad_3719 on
Finding a bad job is easy, finding a good job is hard.
Aspect-Unusual on
100 a month? Is that all? When I was job hunting in the early 2000s I applied for over 100 jobs and sent 500 speculatives a week as well as walking all over town and different towns handing my CV into places (Though I suppose its emailing CVs in todays age?)
ColbysRevenge on
Getting real sick of seeing this exact headline every day. Especially because I should be looking for a job and ts makes me feel dread
damien_aw on
If you keep increasing the size of the workforce without matching job creation, wages stagnate and young people struggle. That’s just basic supply and demand, but we’re not allowed to talk about that
drewlake on
100 jobs in 5 months? That’s way less than 1 a day. No wonder the lazy bugger hasn’t found anything.
LowMaintenancePrick on
The article nails it in the end. With min wage relatively high, why would an employer take a chance on someone with no experience?
Guna1260 on
I am on the other end of spectrum. I find it hard to hire (tech startup). Engineers with hunger to learn and have curiosity seems to be hard.
Graduate engineers – I looks for some evidence of self drive or some open source project contributions or their own published projects.
Experienced engineers – Good attitude to develop products. Mostly I see people who identify themselves as “Java engineer”, “frontend engineer”.. with AI those days are fast going out. Attitude to experiment and build seems to be a rare quality.
Divgirl2 on
I feel like the people in this thread haven’t tried finding a job in this climate. I’m not youth. I graduated from RG uni (twice), long job history where I have excelled in every role with clear progression. No gaps. Nothing weird.
I’m trying to find something new at the minute (not even a promotion, just a new role) and it is brutal. You can spend 5-6 hours tailoring your CV and PS to exactly fit their criteria and you either don’t hear back or get rejected. Where I currently work every job is getting hundreds of applicants per position, some are getting thousands of applicants per position. And yeah, some applications are low effort, some are AI, but the vast majority are people who have put some effort in.
I’ve had a fair few jobs over the years, right across the country, and I’ve never known a market this bad.
Personal-Tadpole4400 on
I’m sorry I just don’t believe he wants to work. Something fishy going on here
MelodicPreparation93 on
We all know the job market is tough. But all these „I’ve applied for hundreds of jobs“ articles are getting a bit tiresome.
Are they actually tailoring their application for each position? Are they making themselves stand out? Or are they just spamming the same CV & cover letter? If so it’s no wonder they are struggling
Spamgrenade on
FFS yet another x number of jobs in x months story. Lets have a look at it.
„Employers are all asking for five years of experience“ – Why apply for jobs asking for 5 years experience?
‚Coburn says he secured one interview during his five months of applications and was turned down for the role as he cannot drive.‘ – Why apply for jobs you are not qualified for and why was the company interviewing someone who can’t drive?
Also, does nobody tell students that if the want an industry job then its best to start applying for jobs at the start of the final year?
Dizzeem on
I do feel for the young people today. It is difficult but not impossible and at the same time the quality of the applications are terrible. I’ve shortlisted for apprenticeships and people just waste their effort sending in half-assed, copy and paste rubbish, often time with another company’s name in.
In most cases, 100 applications in 5 month tells me that this person hasn’t bothered to adapt their application to the job. I know me personally I generally need at least 3 days preparing a single application.
Diligent-Smoke-6719 on
1 application every 1.5 days is not exactly motivated
deafened_commuter on
On the employed side. I’m not seeing new starters coming in. I’m not seeing grads or interns or work experience teens. In fact I’ve seen disguised demotions. I’m being asked to aim to personally spend over 10,000 USD in AI tokens as is everyone else in my world. That’s what growth is expected to look like. Not headcount. Hiring wise they’re looking for unicorns only, literally looking for people who have had the right combination of career change. So many people I know have the fear realising that they wouldn’t pass technical interview for their own job.
Turak64 on
100 on 5 months? That’s incredibly low numbers, needs to be more like 100 a week.
mrkoala1234 on
2010 feeling again. But only 100 application is a low number
dongledoer on
You’re obviously not very good at anything then are you !
TheRimz on
I just don’t believe any of these stories. I know many younger people who get a job very quickly wether it be through an agency or directly.
„I’ve applied for more than 100 jobs in five months“ sounds like the kind of BS I used to give when trying to get my universal credit payments, not that I’m against that kinds of thing.
Illustrious_Body5907 on
The problem isn’t actually the education system, it’s 70% interviewers. After working in education for a bit, I see that a huge number of teachers want what’s best for their kids: interviewers want what’s best for their convenience. Even if it doesn’t seem that way, teachers have to be strict to enforce safeguarding and cohesion as well as deal with 20-30 hyper children for 6+ hours a day, so it can seem oppressive. We’re convincing young and talented minds to go work for the idiots that dump shit back into our rivers and only care about themselves. Of course it’s not going to go well if management is looking for incessant yes men who instantly grasp company culture from the most socially impacted generation in a long time.
I once went from Scotland to Exeter for an assessment day interview with a ‘unicorn sales company’ who said they loved my CV and said I met their requirements so they put me through to the next stage.
Jesus Christ interviewers nowadays are so awful. No feedback or anything. I mentioned in my interview that I’d written a book to highlight ambition and commitment + sales and marketing experience, they laughed and said ‘we don’t want people like that here mate.’ The two who got the role were definitely nicely qualified, but at least 4 other people including me were good too and heard literally nothing back either.
Saw on LinkedIn a week later they’d been scamming customers which is how they had such nice profit margins (double billing people so they could show off and cutting the line when customers rang up) and were finally getting called out for it. They’d changed management a few months ago which I saw during my prep and that must’ve been when it started. One guy who got the job literally just walked off after because conditions were so shit and glassdoor got full of reviews.
Young people don’t know just how bad it is out there and we keep pressuring them to apply. Companies want perfect assets in day 1, parents just want their kids to get nice paying jobs rather than actually change things for the better, teachers are caught in the middle of this gigantic social shitstorm.
Wise-Reflection-7400 on
Too many young people need to learn the phrase “don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good”
If you’re being rejected for 100 jobs then there’s something wrong with what jobs you’re targeting. Broaden your search. If it means you have to take a job at McDonalds in the meantime then do it
cjc1983 on
I’m doing quite a bit of hiring at the moment. I had 129 CVs to sift, only 4 were genuinely any good.
I hate to say it but yes there’s lots of people applying for things but I’m not going to interview someone with ‚transferable skills‘ when I’ve got 4 people with the systems experience, industry experience and past employment history that I’m looking for.
For young people my advice is to decide where you want to be and make a strategic plan for how to get there.
I didn’t get where I am now through 1 application and a ‚firm handshake‘. I incrementally moved through about 8 jobs in 15 years, knowing where I wanted to be and each job was adding to my skills base to get here.
Example – Young and want to work in IT? Get on a funded IT course whilst offering to support in the local library. Then a year later jump to support a primary school. Then a year later jump to a council office, then the NHS, then a small private firm, then land in a big corporate.
Yes I’ve simplified it and it takes luck but moping about the job market won’t get you anywhere.
360Saturn on
I wouldn’t call myself a youth but for me it was very fortunate I was already in a job when I applied for my current job, because I applied in October, the interview + decision-making stage didn’t complete until *January*, and I started in March. Six months turnaround! For a job that I interviewed for and succeeded in obtaining essentially in November!
xmilkbonex on
Probably slightly over 100 jobs in 150 days, that’s less than one application a day. That is pathetic. You’re not unemployed because of the job market, you’re unemployed because you’re not looking hard enough.
Jazzlike-Reflection3 on
A lot of it is parents encouraging their kids not to work at 16. Min wage is cheaper and there are many companies who prefer to hire 16 year olds. My son was working for £8 per hour and his friends took the piss. They laughed and said they could never work for such a low wage. Most of them now at 19 are still unemployed whereas his salary gradually went up and now he has experience. Going to uni is not a full time job. Kids who don’t work through uni saying they have too much work have no time management at all.
JustJavi on
I mean 100 applications in 5 months is less than an application per day.
Beginning-Jump4904 on
From the business perspective, they want employees that plan on staying long term, not an overqualified student who will end up leaving for something better at first opportunity.
tigerjed on
So 2/3rds of an application a day. Even if they are the most researched application possible. Not sure this is a shining example of work ethic.
SteveThePurpleCat on
What jobs are they trying for? I know companies that are *desperate* for mechanics, plumber, sparkies, pipe fitters etc. The vast majority are looking to take on young folk to train as apprentices but just get absolutely no interest.
A local central heating company is facing having to shut down as they can’t find folk to replace their workforce which will be retiring out in ~10 years.
Jazzlike-Reflection3 on
Also some of my daughter’s friends who are about to turn 18 are getting excited about the “free money from the government” and apparently there’s a few tik toks about how to get UC at 18. You know, instead of actually applying for jobs they are counting down the days until they can get it. Where my kids work and have worked they are always short staffed and desperate for more bodies. The work culture in the UK is very lackluster.
StrictCriticism5679 on
I got in contact with an agency an they found me a job the same day. You’ve actually got to want to work.
superiner on
Rookie numbers, I applied to like 200 in 3 months before I got a job
WellHungNHandsome on
Supply and demand, something like 4 million working age people have entered the country since Covid. That pushes the competition way up and allows wages to be suppressed
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Don’t worry
Signing a youth pact with the EU will help things
I mean more available workers is a good thing for the unemployed right?
Also 100 jobs in five months is not good
Thats less than 1 a day
Are they not teaching people to use temp agencies?
I’ve had 2 permanent jobs from starting as an agency worker. Applying for jobs is only one method for getting paid work.
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I think I’ve been incredibly lucky with employment. I’m 40 and I’ve applied for 5 jobs since I left school 25 years ago, and I’ve had 4 of them.
Finding a bad job is easy, finding a good job is hard.
100 a month? Is that all? When I was job hunting in the early 2000s I applied for over 100 jobs and sent 500 speculatives a week as well as walking all over town and different towns handing my CV into places (Though I suppose its emailing CVs in todays age?)
Getting real sick of seeing this exact headline every day. Especially because I should be looking for a job and ts makes me feel dread
If you keep increasing the size of the workforce without matching job creation, wages stagnate and young people struggle. That’s just basic supply and demand, but we’re not allowed to talk about that
100 jobs in 5 months? That’s way less than 1 a day. No wonder the lazy bugger hasn’t found anything.
The article nails it in the end. With min wage relatively high, why would an employer take a chance on someone with no experience?
I am on the other end of spectrum. I find it hard to hire (tech startup). Engineers with hunger to learn and have curiosity seems to be hard.
Graduate engineers – I looks for some evidence of self drive or some open source project contributions or their own published projects.
Experienced engineers – Good attitude to develop products. Mostly I see people who identify themselves as “Java engineer”, “frontend engineer”.. with AI those days are fast going out. Attitude to experiment and build seems to be a rare quality.
I feel like the people in this thread haven’t tried finding a job in this climate. I’m not youth. I graduated from RG uni (twice), long job history where I have excelled in every role with clear progression. No gaps. Nothing weird.
I’m trying to find something new at the minute (not even a promotion, just a new role) and it is brutal. You can spend 5-6 hours tailoring your CV and PS to exactly fit their criteria and you either don’t hear back or get rejected. Where I currently work every job is getting hundreds of applicants per position, some are getting thousands of applicants per position. And yeah, some applications are low effort, some are AI, but the vast majority are people who have put some effort in.
I’ve had a fair few jobs over the years, right across the country, and I’ve never known a market this bad.
I’m sorry I just don’t believe he wants to work. Something fishy going on here
We all know the job market is tough. But all these „I’ve applied for hundreds of jobs“ articles are getting a bit tiresome.
Are they actually tailoring their application for each position? Are they making themselves stand out? Or are they just spamming the same CV & cover letter? If so it’s no wonder they are struggling
FFS yet another x number of jobs in x months story. Lets have a look at it.
„Employers are all asking for five years of experience“ – Why apply for jobs asking for 5 years experience?
‚Coburn says he secured one interview during his five months of applications and was turned down for the role as he cannot drive.‘ – Why apply for jobs you are not qualified for and why was the company interviewing someone who can’t drive?
Also, does nobody tell students that if the want an industry job then its best to start applying for jobs at the start of the final year?
I do feel for the young people today. It is difficult but not impossible and at the same time the quality of the applications are terrible. I’ve shortlisted for apprenticeships and people just waste their effort sending in half-assed, copy and paste rubbish, often time with another company’s name in.
In most cases, 100 applications in 5 month tells me that this person hasn’t bothered to adapt their application to the job. I know me personally I generally need at least 3 days preparing a single application.
1 application every 1.5 days is not exactly motivated
On the employed side. I’m not seeing new starters coming in. I’m not seeing grads or interns or work experience teens. In fact I’ve seen disguised demotions. I’m being asked to aim to personally spend over 10,000 USD in AI tokens as is everyone else in my world. That’s what growth is expected to look like. Not headcount. Hiring wise they’re looking for unicorns only, literally looking for people who have had the right combination of career change. So many people I know have the fear realising that they wouldn’t pass technical interview for their own job.
100 on 5 months? That’s incredibly low numbers, needs to be more like 100 a week.
2010 feeling again. But only 100 application is a low number
You’re obviously not very good at anything then are you !
I just don’t believe any of these stories. I know many younger people who get a job very quickly wether it be through an agency or directly.
„I’ve applied for more than 100 jobs in five months“ sounds like the kind of BS I used to give when trying to get my universal credit payments, not that I’m against that kinds of thing.
The problem isn’t actually the education system, it’s 70% interviewers. After working in education for a bit, I see that a huge number of teachers want what’s best for their kids: interviewers want what’s best for their convenience. Even if it doesn’t seem that way, teachers have to be strict to enforce safeguarding and cohesion as well as deal with 20-30 hyper children for 6+ hours a day, so it can seem oppressive. We’re convincing young and talented minds to go work for the idiots that dump shit back into our rivers and only care about themselves. Of course it’s not going to go well if management is looking for incessant yes men who instantly grasp company culture from the most socially impacted generation in a long time.
I once went from Scotland to Exeter for an assessment day interview with a ‘unicorn sales company’ who said they loved my CV and said I met their requirements so they put me through to the next stage.
Jesus Christ interviewers nowadays are so awful. No feedback or anything. I mentioned in my interview that I’d written a book to highlight ambition and commitment + sales and marketing experience, they laughed and said ‘we don’t want people like that here mate.’ The two who got the role were definitely nicely qualified, but at least 4 other people including me were good too and heard literally nothing back either.
Saw on LinkedIn a week later they’d been scamming customers which is how they had such nice profit margins (double billing people so they could show off and cutting the line when customers rang up) and were finally getting called out for it. They’d changed management a few months ago which I saw during my prep and that must’ve been when it started. One guy who got the job literally just walked off after because conditions were so shit and glassdoor got full of reviews.
Young people don’t know just how bad it is out there and we keep pressuring them to apply. Companies want perfect assets in day 1, parents just want their kids to get nice paying jobs rather than actually change things for the better, teachers are caught in the middle of this gigantic social shitstorm.
Too many young people need to learn the phrase “don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good”
If you’re being rejected for 100 jobs then there’s something wrong with what jobs you’re targeting. Broaden your search. If it means you have to take a job at McDonalds in the meantime then do it
I’m doing quite a bit of hiring at the moment. I had 129 CVs to sift, only 4 were genuinely any good.
I hate to say it but yes there’s lots of people applying for things but I’m not going to interview someone with ‚transferable skills‘ when I’ve got 4 people with the systems experience, industry experience and past employment history that I’m looking for.
For young people my advice is to decide where you want to be and make a strategic plan for how to get there.
I didn’t get where I am now through 1 application and a ‚firm handshake‘. I incrementally moved through about 8 jobs in 15 years, knowing where I wanted to be and each job was adding to my skills base to get here.
Example – Young and want to work in IT? Get on a funded IT course whilst offering to support in the local library. Then a year later jump to support a primary school. Then a year later jump to a council office, then the NHS, then a small private firm, then land in a big corporate.
Yes I’ve simplified it and it takes luck but moping about the job market won’t get you anywhere.
I wouldn’t call myself a youth but for me it was very fortunate I was already in a job when I applied for my current job, because I applied in October, the interview + decision-making stage didn’t complete until *January*, and I started in March. Six months turnaround! For a job that I interviewed for and succeeded in obtaining essentially in November!
Probably slightly over 100 jobs in 150 days, that’s less than one application a day. That is pathetic. You’re not unemployed because of the job market, you’re unemployed because you’re not looking hard enough.
A lot of it is parents encouraging their kids not to work at 16. Min wage is cheaper and there are many companies who prefer to hire 16 year olds. My son was working for £8 per hour and his friends took the piss. They laughed and said they could never work for such a low wage. Most of them now at 19 are still unemployed whereas his salary gradually went up and now he has experience. Going to uni is not a full time job. Kids who don’t work through uni saying they have too much work have no time management at all.
I mean 100 applications in 5 months is less than an application per day.
From the business perspective, they want employees that plan on staying long term, not an overqualified student who will end up leaving for something better at first opportunity.
So 2/3rds of an application a day. Even if they are the most researched application possible. Not sure this is a shining example of work ethic.
What jobs are they trying for? I know companies that are *desperate* for mechanics, plumber, sparkies, pipe fitters etc. The vast majority are looking to take on young folk to train as apprentices but just get absolutely no interest.
A local central heating company is facing having to shut down as they can’t find folk to replace their workforce which will be retiring out in ~10 years.
Also some of my daughter’s friends who are about to turn 18 are getting excited about the “free money from the government” and apparently there’s a few tik toks about how to get UC at 18. You know, instead of actually applying for jobs they are counting down the days until they can get it. Where my kids work and have worked they are always short staffed and desperate for more bodies. The work culture in the UK is very lackluster.
I got in contact with an agency an they found me a job the same day. You’ve actually got to want to work.
Rookie numbers, I applied to like 200 in 3 months before I got a job
Supply and demand, something like 4 million working age people have entered the country since Covid. That pushes the competition way up and allows wages to be suppressed