The unintended consequences of their intentional actions. What shitgibbons. I hope this (trying to make Americans more reliant on fossil fuels under the Trump administration) spectacularly backfires on the oil industry.
poliosaurus3000 on
Anyone think this might have been a favor to Elon to sell more ev’s becaue Tesla is tanking?
Xinlitik on
Unfortunately as an EV owner I am not sitting pretty right now. Electricity prices will be going up due to this idiotic war, just not quite as soon as gas prices. Natural gas is a big part of the grid, and energy is pretty fungible- CA for example uses 33% natural gas so if that skyrockets, all other forms of generation will also go up as the demand rises for them.
AverageLiberalJoe on
Let it skyrocket. I hope O&G becomes completely economically unfeasable. And all those subsidies and loans and research and demand dollars go straight in to green energy.
benthamthecat on
Bloke next door mostly works from home but gets a company car🤔 ( how does that work?). They swapped his Kia for the electric version a few months ago. He moaned about it at the time but he’s delighted now.
CheapWeight8403 on
Really glad I live in a bright blue city with public transportation.
The Trumpers who have no way to go buy groceries without filling up their tanks can eat a fat one.
Have a good time eating shit for dinner, Trumpers.
KupoCheer on
My only question about the near term viability (I guess potentially long term) in which type of ‚fuel‘ will stay cheaper is the cost of electricity as data center production ramps up.
itsmarty on
The math on driving more slowly and taking fewer trips is the same as it’s always been, but it’s still more difficult than calculus for the average US driver.
chambee on
Buying an EV a year ago was the right decision.
ssianky on
EV are as unsustainable as any other cars.
Lexxias on
I was expecting an actual equation.
Commonsenseguy100 on
Thank God I work remotely full time.
Deathcommand on
Plug in hybrid gang. ✌️
Horror-Layer-8178 on
Fuck your paywall
pimpbot666 on
That said, go EV for the CO2 savings out of the air, and to lower our dependence on fossil fuels and all the international oligarch bullshit that goes with it.
Buying a $40k+ car only to save a few pennies per mile is silly.
MeanShibu on
Great now all we need to do is carve up and eminent domain PG&E, tell them and their shareholders to fuck off, and we’ll have a proper solution.
Fuck pg&e, they’re the worst thing to happen to California.
And if Newsome has White House goals, his oversight of CPUC will destroy any shot of that happening.
Wicked_Rebel117 on
Lmao with electricity prices increasing so much more than gas, I doubt it makes much of a difference right now. I’ll stick to my WRX. I can put 3 gallons of E-85 which saves me some money and keeps my engine in optimal health, and once I can get my flex fuel setup done, I’ll save even more money. Don’t think I’ll ever get an EV car until it’s mandated or the incentives are brought back.
HighOnGoofballs on
Wow. How insightful
mr_lab_rat on
Paywalled article.
It comes down to how much you drive. If you do 12k per year in a car with 35mpg then gas can be $7/gal and you are at $200/mo. That’s gonna take several years to make up the difference in purchase price.
But if you drive 17k per year in a 20mpg car then you are spending $500 per month on gas. In that case you should have bought an EV years ago.
PigglyWigglyDeluxe on
Once again, hybrids are the best solution.
SnooDogs7747 on
Mad at gas car
Fiedor on
It should state: “ how California state taxes on gas are charging the math”. It’s double Colorado prices!
Riversntallbuildings on
Stories like this are a great example of why “being right” no longer “feels good” in this timeline.
I genuinely don’t wish suffering and misery on others. I cannot fathom why & how people can be so close minded and short sighted.
Energy independence is national security. We (the United States) won’t learn anything different than they did during the Gulf War.
blankdoubt on
2020, ev and solar w battery. Supes expensive at the time, but long term has really worked out.
memercopter on
Bike and bus. If your town doesn’t support that, why did you move there? We knew this was coming.
turb0_encapsulator on
I have two friends who bought EVs since the war began.
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It’s almost like it’s all on purpose
The unintended consequences of their intentional actions. What shitgibbons. I hope this (trying to make Americans more reliant on fossil fuels under the Trump administration) spectacularly backfires on the oil industry.
Anyone think this might have been a favor to Elon to sell more ev’s becaue Tesla is tanking?
Unfortunately as an EV owner I am not sitting pretty right now. Electricity prices will be going up due to this idiotic war, just not quite as soon as gas prices. Natural gas is a big part of the grid, and energy is pretty fungible- CA for example uses 33% natural gas so if that skyrockets, all other forms of generation will also go up as the demand rises for them.
Let it skyrocket. I hope O&G becomes completely economically unfeasable. And all those subsidies and loans and research and demand dollars go straight in to green energy.
Bloke next door mostly works from home but gets a company car🤔 ( how does that work?). They swapped his Kia for the electric version a few months ago. He moaned about it at the time but he’s delighted now.
Really glad I live in a bright blue city with public transportation.
The Trumpers who have no way to go buy groceries without filling up their tanks can eat a fat one.
Have a good time eating shit for dinner, Trumpers.
My only question about the near term viability (I guess potentially long term) in which type of ‚fuel‘ will stay cheaper is the cost of electricity as data center production ramps up.
The math on driving more slowly and taking fewer trips is the same as it’s always been, but it’s still more difficult than calculus for the average US driver.
Buying an EV a year ago was the right decision.
EV are as unsustainable as any other cars.
I was expecting an actual equation.
Thank God I work remotely full time.
Plug in hybrid gang. ✌️
Fuck your paywall
That said, go EV for the CO2 savings out of the air, and to lower our dependence on fossil fuels and all the international oligarch bullshit that goes with it.
Buying a $40k+ car only to save a few pennies per mile is silly.
Great now all we need to do is carve up and eminent domain PG&E, tell them and their shareholders to fuck off, and we’ll have a proper solution.
Fuck pg&e, they’re the worst thing to happen to California.
And if Newsome has White House goals, his oversight of CPUC will destroy any shot of that happening.
Lmao with electricity prices increasing so much more than gas, I doubt it makes much of a difference right now. I’ll stick to my WRX. I can put 3 gallons of E-85 which saves me some money and keeps my engine in optimal health, and once I can get my flex fuel setup done, I’ll save even more money. Don’t think I’ll ever get an EV car until it’s mandated or the incentives are brought back.
Wow. How insightful
Paywalled article.
It comes down to how much you drive. If you do 12k per year in a car with 35mpg then gas can be $7/gal and you are at $200/mo. That’s gonna take several years to make up the difference in purchase price.
But if you drive 17k per year in a 20mpg car then you are spending $500 per month on gas. In that case you should have bought an EV years ago.
Once again, hybrids are the best solution.
Mad at gas car
It should state: “ how California state taxes on gas are charging the math”. It’s double Colorado prices!
Stories like this are a great example of why “being right” no longer “feels good” in this timeline.
I genuinely don’t wish suffering and misery on others. I cannot fathom why & how people can be so close minded and short sighted.
Energy independence is national security. We (the United States) won’t learn anything different than they did during the Gulf War.
2020, ev and solar w battery. Supes expensive at the time, but long term has really worked out.
Bike and bus. If your town doesn’t support that, why did you move there? We knew this was coming.
I have two friends who bought EVs since the war began.