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    Moskau stehe für „Korruption und Gewalt“ und nicht für Konservatismus, sagt der polnische Präsident


    Moskau stehe für „Korruption und Gewalt“ und nicht für Konservatismus, sagt der polnische Präsident

    https://tvpworld.com/92346891/russia-means-corruption-and-violence-not-conservatism-polands-nawrocki

    Von Easy-Ad1996

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    26 Kommentare

    1. ErhartJamin on

      And yet you advocate for the corruption by doing a PR campaign with Orbán who openly supports Russia, Mr. Nawrocki.

    3. Nano_needle on

      „That is not real conservatism“ xD lmao, but honestly? Fuck it. If our right wing can gas light the rest of conservative wing in Europe that russians don’t share their values then I am all in for that.

    5. Mttsen on

      His words mean nothing, while he endorses the politicians, who are pretty much on the Russian payroll.

    8. Key_Arrival2927 on

      I hate this tribal rhetoric. It baffles me that the right wingers simply cannot admit their ideas can be taken to the extreme and cause another Russia, or maybe even a Nazi Germany.

    9. Equivalent-Role4632 on

      Well the roots of conservatism is just that. Money and power by any means

    10. eswifttng on

      Conservativism seems to represent those things too but we have to pretend that they don’t because their supporters are VERY thin skinned and have power. 

    15. TallCommission7139 on

      Uh, no, conservatism just represents corruption and violence, has it always has.

    16. sin_eater_monolith on

      The only reason that Pis is not a Russian bootlicker party that Poles remember that Russia is an existential threat to them. It is so imprinted to their collective mind that it is almost a political suicide to vocalize sympathy for the Russians. They did and tried to eliminate the Polish state multiple times.  

      In the other hand, Hungarians has a strong Russian sympathy because despite Russia occupied us and eliminated two progressive revolutions in the country doing a lot of harm, they never tried to eliminate or cripple the state itself. Western powers did, first the Habsburgs, than the France and GB. They punished us unproportionally after WW1 with no intention to keep the ethnical borders and and for some Hungarians this is a bigger sin then the Russians did to us. 

      P.S. From my perspective, this is not okay just writing some context why some Hungarians likes Russia better than the West even when our relation with Russians is quite similar to the Poles vs. Russia.

    19. BahutF1 on

      Well, examples of conservatism without corruption of the elite and violence toward the people are unicorns.

    21. BrotherRoga on

      Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

    23. shadowrun456 on

      Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

      Anti-conservatism is the proposition that the law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone, and cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.

    26. Mediocre-One3874 on

      Conservatism means preservation of status quo, which in Russia does refer to corruption and violence.

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