Ireland started off as an exact copy of the UK Parliamentary but diverged.
Where we differ from Westminster is that our Upper House is mostly elected from a boards of experts (small number filled by the PM) but a Senate seat only lasts until the next General Election (5-7 years typically.)
Is that enough to force the UK down the table?
[edit: = it’s only in the last few cycles that Britain has fallen down the chart]
o_senso_comum on
Is v-dem trustworthy? I was looking into the data they use and it seems like it’s a bit subjective with the country experts and all.
SmugCapybara on
OP, I would very much like to know what you think the difference between „Liberal“ and „Electoral“ Democracies is, and why you apparently consider „Electoral“ Democracies lesser than „Liberal“ ones.
rintzscar on
We need an ultra-democracy tier for Bulgaria; we’ve had 12 elections in the last 5 years.
c32dot on
These are the definitions they are using since so many people are asking.
* Electoral Democracy: Multiparty elections for the executive are free and fair; satisfactory degrees of suffrage, freedom of expression, freedom of association.
* Liberal Democracy: Requirements of Electoral Democracy are met; judicial and legislative constraints on the executive along with the protection of civil liberties and equality before the law
NovaNightDrama on
What’s the difference between an Elected Democracy and a Liberal Democracy ?
FabulousAd4812 on
This is nonsense. Tell me exactly what’s the different between Portugal and France in the way their democracy and elected officials are selected?? Also. Spain, Netherlands and others are kingdoms, by default the head of state is not elected. This list is a complete hallucination.
Miserable-Ad-7947 on
wha’ts the difference between „liberal“ & „electoral“ dem ?
Over-Willingness-933 on
They are all democracies. They require regular elections. Orban is likely to lose in Hungary. This suggests Hungary is not an autocracy.
lungshenli on
r/portugalcykablyat once more
camelBackIsTheBest on
Does anyone actually believe these classifications? Germany is not a liberal democracy, it’s not even a democracy just a masquerade.
eurocomments247 on
Better than any other continent (well except Oz)
Repulsive_Work_226 on
source
bald_molfar on
I am trying to understand under what criteria Ukraine, a country that has free elections and had a new president and ruling party after each one, can be considered autocracy, and in the same category as full personalistic dictatorships like russia?
yur-hightower on
Quick, someone blow MapleMAGA’s minds by showig them that Canada is not considered liberal.
Hyperactyve on
Considering South Korea a democracy when it’s basically ruled by Samsung…
KnoFear on
The thing that makes me question this source is some of the outliers. Like, Canada is worse than Japan, an effective one-party state which just gave its most right-wing government ever a supermajority? Portugal below Chile, a place that just elected a fucking neonazi?
Bacon___Wizard on
There is no way the US should be so high on the list since the egregious abuses of power that have come about.
GiantRabbit on
USA is in the wrong category
NARVALhacker69 on
Lol, how is an apartheid state an „electoral democracy“
mrwho995 on
I cannot take this list seriously when it places the US and UK in the same tier (even the US higher if the order means anything). Using this system the US should be ED- at best.
BassesBest on
Where is the source of this data please?
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Source: https://www.v-dem.net/documents/75/V-Dem_Institute_Democracy_Report_2026_lowres.pdf
I find the UK entry a bit puzzling
Ireland started off as an exact copy of the UK Parliamentary but diverged.
Where we differ from Westminster is that our Upper House is mostly elected from a boards of experts (small number filled by the PM) but a Senate seat only lasts until the next General Election (5-7 years typically.)
Is that enough to force the UK down the table?
[edit: = it’s only in the last few cycles that Britain has fallen down the chart]
Is v-dem trustworthy? I was looking into the data they use and it seems like it’s a bit subjective with the country experts and all.
OP, I would very much like to know what you think the difference between „Liberal“ and „Electoral“ Democracies is, and why you apparently consider „Electoral“ Democracies lesser than „Liberal“ ones.
We need an ultra-democracy tier for Bulgaria; we’ve had 12 elections in the last 5 years.
These are the definitions they are using since so many people are asking.
* Electoral Democracy: Multiparty elections for the executive are free and fair; satisfactory degrees of suffrage, freedom of expression, freedom of association.
* Liberal Democracy: Requirements of Electoral Democracy are met; judicial and legislative constraints on the executive along with the protection of civil liberties and equality before the law
What’s the difference between an Elected Democracy and a Liberal Democracy ?
This is nonsense. Tell me exactly what’s the different between Portugal and France in the way their democracy and elected officials are selected?? Also. Spain, Netherlands and others are kingdoms, by default the head of state is not elected. This list is a complete hallucination.
wha’ts the difference between „liberal“ & „electoral“ dem ?
They are all democracies. They require regular elections. Orban is likely to lose in Hungary. This suggests Hungary is not an autocracy.
r/portugalcykablyat once more
Does anyone actually believe these classifications? Germany is not a liberal democracy, it’s not even a democracy just a masquerade.
Better than any other continent (well except Oz)
source
I am trying to understand under what criteria Ukraine, a country that has free elections and had a new president and ruling party after each one, can be considered autocracy, and in the same category as full personalistic dictatorships like russia?
Quick, someone blow MapleMAGA’s minds by showig them that Canada is not considered liberal.
Considering South Korea a democracy when it’s basically ruled by Samsung…
The thing that makes me question this source is some of the outliers. Like, Canada is worse than Japan, an effective one-party state which just gave its most right-wing government ever a supermajority? Portugal below Chile, a place that just elected a fucking neonazi?
There is no way the US should be so high on the list since the egregious abuses of power that have come about.
USA is in the wrong category
Lol, how is an apartheid state an „electoral democracy“
I cannot take this list seriously when it places the US and UK in the same tier (even the US higher if the order means anything). Using this system the US should be ED- at best.
Where is the source of this data please?