Cue the „they can only join back if they join the Euro“
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Socmel_ on
Labour wants to make a mockery of democracy
Luckierexpert on
They may want to but what is the path back looking like? I say this as a Brit but the EU are unlikely to offer anything major until Farage and his grifting party are out of the picture, as they would just back out of any negotiated deal.
Even then, questions about Euro adoption and UK membership to the Schengen area (such as how it influences our open border with Ireland), and whether some EU members, especially those friendly with Putin and Trump, would veto any membership agreement for the UK remain. I do see us rejoining at some point, but that probably is a good while away.
Single Market and Customs Union membership would be more achievable in the short term, so I’d say that is a possibility if the UK is moving back towards Europe.
ledow on
If they wanted to undo it, they wouldn’t have supported it and would have been undoing it for quite some time now.
If you put it to a vote now, polls suggest that the majority would support rejoin.
Sorry, but it’s nonsense. They want the „good bits“ and none of the „bad bits“, same as Leave wanted from Brexit. They BOTH just don’t understand or care that both good and bad come attached to the same things.
If you wanted to undo Brexit, you could just say. You’re in power for years. It’s a great distraction from any current scandal. You’d have majority support. You can use it to actually get stuff done that you’re currently trying to do.
They haven’t, because they don’t. They want the piecemeal, selective, beneficial only to the UK, idealised, fictional scenario that Leave wanted. And, shock, horror, they haven’t got ANYWHERE NEAR that.
Own_Kaleidoscope1287 on
Afaik Labour has an absolute majority in the parliament, so what is stopping them if they actually wanted to apply for EU membership?
MapDiscombobulated1 on
Good.
CurrentSkill7766 on
All in. 100%. €€€ and common market. Hell, join Schengen. Brexit was the dumbest move the UK has made since Tony Blair helped Bush Jr invade Iraq.
Nanowith on
Please, I’m so tired man. It was so clearly a mistake driven by a Russian-funded disinformation campaign, and only the elderly and jingoistic wanted/want it.
ThickFinger on
Do it brothers
arwinda on
Schengen, Euro, red passports, free movement, all in or nothing. No extras this time.
Kind_Commission_427 on
Keir Starmer has insisted the UK will not rejoin either the EU, the single market or the customs union.
So you know we will
Slackeee_ on
They will not get the same deal with the same exceptions as the own they have thrown away.
And that is something that Farage and his ilk will use to influence the opinion against a join: „look, they want to get you back into the EU with an even worse deal than last time!!!!!!“
And Russia will once again turn on the social media propaganda machine, this time supported by the Trump USA that does not want a strong EU under any circumstances.
OkKnowledge2064 on
I dont see it happening at all. France will fight tooth and nails to not give the UK any of the old exceptions and perks
Hot_Growth_9643 on
We can’t get back in as we still have a huge farage problem. We need to get rid of that before we consider rejoining
Computerist1969 on
I actively want to adopt the euro, and pretty much everything else. Where do I sign?
Ac1De9Cy0Sif6S on
The Greens leading the UK to rejoin the EU would break a lot of brains and it’s not an impossible scenario
Darkone539 on
They are run by people who never wanted to leave.
Blocked by their own manifesto though. They would need an election.
Fragrant_Associate43 on
Get on with it then.
razvanciuy on
Umm stop giving free money to everyone then
zippyzebra1 on
Soon as someone says we will lose the pound that’s game over.
KoolKat5000 on
You’d have to be a fool not to want to undo it. Timing is up for debate.
cassidyc3141 on
good, and perfectly happy with the Euro (I mean I’ve not seen a bank note in years, so don’t care who/what is on it) and even more happy with Schengen.
ConinTheNinoC on
I hate living in interesting times. Seeing the UK leave the EU and then maybe rejoin it while the USA eats itself from withing with a dementia president starting a war with Iran on a whim while also having Russia still attacking Ukraine and have AI tech oligarchs trying to implement online ID for everyone and pushing AI slop everywhere. I miss the 2000s, 90s and the 80s.
Mr_B_e_a_r on
They can’t do the thinking so they want someone else to do the thinking for them and get paid. Hard work being a politician.
folques on
Let them stay where they are.
Crosswordaddict62 on
They will be allowed rejoin if the change the name of the country to Verysorryland.
maxmarioxx_ on
Sorry but the UK should not be allowed back in. They will then start again to block everything.
Tiberinvs on
>Reeves said following EU rules should be ‘the norm’
>
>Chancellor Rachel Reeves argued in her Mais lecture at Bayes Business School this week that where it was in the national interest, the UK should be “prepared to align with EU regulation, including in further areas of the single market”.
>
>She said regulatory independence should be “the exception, not the norm.” Treasury sources confirmed the Government is “looking at more alignment” with the bloc across “several sectors”.
>
>Reeves insisted she was not trying to “turn back the clock” on Brexit but to build a “new and stable future relationship” with Brussels, and acknowledged she would have to “make and win the political argument”.
You can tell how retarded the whole thing was by reading this stuff. They left the EU to „take back control“ and having the freedom to diverge from EU rules because it was „too much bureaucracy“, and in 5 years:
1. They had a pro-Brexit right wing government with a gigantic majority for 5 years who was boasting about diverging and doing a bonfire with EU laws, and did fuck all when it comes to that. Something like 80-90% of pre-2021 EU law it’s still in British law
2. They now have a left wing government with a gigantic majority that is saying that diverging from EU laws will be “the exception, not the norm” and that they will follow EU rules unilaterally even without a deal
Anyone with more than two brain cells can understand that this is undeniable evidence of the whole thing being a massive failure, but you have Brexiters saying that the problem is that „the government didn’t do Brexit properly“, „it wasn’t real Brexit“ and similar bs. Can’t wait to see Farage become PM and trying to do the „real Brexit“ /s
I_ALWAYS_UPVOTE_CATS on
All this framing of the issue as ‚undoing Brexit‘ is maddeningly unhelpful. It implies that the proposition is to turn the clock back to 2016 before the referendum, but that’s not going to happen. There’s pretty good support for ‚rejoining‘, but it collapses when you actually ask people whether they want Schengen, the Euro, and to contribute our true share of the budget like any new member would.
Azalith on
If only
nora_sellisa on
I’m kinda hoping EU says no. Letting countries that leave back without consequences sends a very encouraging message to others.
Tmelpomenia43 on
Lord, I hope this is true. The less Brexit the better. A brexit free world is a happier , sunnier place.
Special-Camel-6114 on
2 Changes that would probably help things:
1. They should make sure any future referendum in any direction (accession or another future Brexit) is at least 55% or even 60%. This should be a rule for all countries in the EU.
If 51% of voters choose to join, all it takes is 1% changing their mind to get leave to win when the threshold is 50%.
With a 55% threshold, once – country joins, it would take 10% of voters changing their mind to leave. With a 60% threshold, once a country joins, it would take 20% to flip. It should be harder to join and harder to flip, and it should represent a major change in societal views, not a small threshold that is within the margin of error of most polling and turnout statistics.
2. They should put some kind of “Fuck You” choice on the ballot that is outside of leave or remain. Lots of people seemed to vote Brexit out of frustration with the status quo rather than a genuine desire to leave. Give people an option that does something and delivers a “fuck you” message without the mess of withdrawing from an economic block that took decades to put together.
octahexxer on
Please rejoin I miss buying stuff from the UK without taxes and all the garbage… Had the friendliest little shops also who wrote personal messages when you bought stuff.
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Cue the „they can only join back if they join the Euro“
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Labour wants to make a mockery of democracy
They may want to but what is the path back looking like? I say this as a Brit but the EU are unlikely to offer anything major until Farage and his grifting party are out of the picture, as they would just back out of any negotiated deal.
Even then, questions about Euro adoption and UK membership to the Schengen area (such as how it influences our open border with Ireland), and whether some EU members, especially those friendly with Putin and Trump, would veto any membership agreement for the UK remain. I do see us rejoining at some point, but that probably is a good while away.
Single Market and Customs Union membership would be more achievable in the short term, so I’d say that is a possibility if the UK is moving back towards Europe.
If they wanted to undo it, they wouldn’t have supported it and would have been undoing it for quite some time now.
If you put it to a vote now, polls suggest that the majority would support rejoin.
Sorry, but it’s nonsense. They want the „good bits“ and none of the „bad bits“, same as Leave wanted from Brexit. They BOTH just don’t understand or care that both good and bad come attached to the same things.
If you wanted to undo Brexit, you could just say. You’re in power for years. It’s a great distraction from any current scandal. You’d have majority support. You can use it to actually get stuff done that you’re currently trying to do.
They haven’t, because they don’t. They want the piecemeal, selective, beneficial only to the UK, idealised, fictional scenario that Leave wanted. And, shock, horror, they haven’t got ANYWHERE NEAR that.
Afaik Labour has an absolute majority in the parliament, so what is stopping them if they actually wanted to apply for EU membership?
Good.
All in. 100%. €€€ and common market. Hell, join Schengen. Brexit was the dumbest move the UK has made since Tony Blair helped Bush Jr invade Iraq.
Please, I’m so tired man. It was so clearly a mistake driven by a Russian-funded disinformation campaign, and only the elderly and jingoistic wanted/want it.
Do it brothers
Schengen, Euro, red passports, free movement, all in or nothing. No extras this time.
Keir Starmer has insisted the UK will not rejoin either the EU, the single market or the customs union.
So you know we will
They will not get the same deal with the same exceptions as the own they have thrown away.
And that is something that Farage and his ilk will use to influence the opinion against a join: „look, they want to get you back into the EU with an even worse deal than last time!!!!!!“
And Russia will once again turn on the social media propaganda machine, this time supported by the Trump USA that does not want a strong EU under any circumstances.
I dont see it happening at all. France will fight tooth and nails to not give the UK any of the old exceptions and perks
We can’t get back in as we still have a huge farage problem. We need to get rid of that before we consider rejoining
I actively want to adopt the euro, and pretty much everything else. Where do I sign?
The Greens leading the UK to rejoin the EU would break a lot of brains and it’s not an impossible scenario
They are run by people who never wanted to leave.
Blocked by their own manifesto though. They would need an election.
Get on with it then.
Umm stop giving free money to everyone then
Soon as someone says we will lose the pound that’s game over.
You’d have to be a fool not to want to undo it. Timing is up for debate.
good, and perfectly happy with the Euro (I mean I’ve not seen a bank note in years, so don’t care who/what is on it) and even more happy with Schengen.
I hate living in interesting times. Seeing the UK leave the EU and then maybe rejoin it while the USA eats itself from withing with a dementia president starting a war with Iran on a whim while also having Russia still attacking Ukraine and have AI tech oligarchs trying to implement online ID for everyone and pushing AI slop everywhere. I miss the 2000s, 90s and the 80s.
They can’t do the thinking so they want someone else to do the thinking for them and get paid. Hard work being a politician.
Let them stay where they are.
They will be allowed rejoin if the change the name of the country to Verysorryland.
Sorry but the UK should not be allowed back in. They will then start again to block everything.
>Reeves said following EU rules should be ‘the norm’
>
>Chancellor Rachel Reeves argued in her Mais lecture at Bayes Business School this week that where it was in the national interest, the UK should be “prepared to align with EU regulation, including in further areas of the single market”.
>
>She said regulatory independence should be “the exception, not the norm.” Treasury sources confirmed the Government is “looking at more alignment” with the bloc across “several sectors”.
>
>Reeves insisted she was not trying to “turn back the clock” on Brexit but to build a “new and stable future relationship” with Brussels, and acknowledged she would have to “make and win the political argument”.
You can tell how retarded the whole thing was by reading this stuff. They left the EU to „take back control“ and having the freedom to diverge from EU rules because it was „too much bureaucracy“, and in 5 years:
1. They had a pro-Brexit right wing government with a gigantic majority for 5 years who was boasting about diverging and doing a bonfire with EU laws, and did fuck all when it comes to that. Something like 80-90% of pre-2021 EU law it’s still in British law
2. They now have a left wing government with a gigantic majority that is saying that diverging from EU laws will be “the exception, not the norm” and that they will follow EU rules unilaterally even without a deal
Anyone with more than two brain cells can understand that this is undeniable evidence of the whole thing being a massive failure, but you have Brexiters saying that the problem is that „the government didn’t do Brexit properly“, „it wasn’t real Brexit“ and similar bs. Can’t wait to see Farage become PM and trying to do the „real Brexit“ /s
All this framing of the issue as ‚undoing Brexit‘ is maddeningly unhelpful. It implies that the proposition is to turn the clock back to 2016 before the referendum, but that’s not going to happen. There’s pretty good support for ‚rejoining‘, but it collapses when you actually ask people whether they want Schengen, the Euro, and to contribute our true share of the budget like any new member would.
If only
I’m kinda hoping EU says no. Letting countries that leave back without consequences sends a very encouraging message to others.
Lord, I hope this is true. The less Brexit the better. A brexit free world is a happier , sunnier place.
2 Changes that would probably help things:
1. They should make sure any future referendum in any direction (accession or another future Brexit) is at least 55% or even 60%. This should be a rule for all countries in the EU.
If 51% of voters choose to join, all it takes is 1% changing their mind to get leave to win when the threshold is 50%.
With a 55% threshold, once – country joins, it would take 10% of voters changing their mind to leave. With a 60% threshold, once a country joins, it would take 20% to flip. It should be harder to join and harder to flip, and it should represent a major change in societal views, not a small threshold that is within the margin of error of most polling and turnout statistics.
2. They should put some kind of “Fuck You” choice on the ballot that is outside of leave or remain. Lots of people seemed to vote Brexit out of frustration with the status quo rather than a genuine desire to leave. Give people an option that does something and delivers a “fuck you” message without the mess of withdrawing from an economic block that took decades to put together.
Please rejoin I miss buying stuff from the UK without taxes and all the garbage… Had the friendliest little shops also who wrote personal messages when you bought stuff.