„Wenn KI die Arbeit schreibt und KI die Arbeit liest, müssen wir dann überhaupt dort sein?“ Pädagogen offenbaren eine wachsende Krise auf dem Campus und außerhalb
https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/if-ai-is-writing-the-work-and-ai
„Wenn KI die Arbeit schreibt und KI die Arbeit liest, müssen wir dann überhaupt dort sein?“ Pädagogen offenbaren eine wachsende Krise auf dem Campus und außerhalb
https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/if-ai-is-writing-the-work-and-ai
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Well I have long wondered, at what point does AI replace the students?
CS professors? Maybe not. I don’t have any damn idea. Humanities professors? Of course you do.
Well someone needs to be there for damage control when AI inevitably starts spouting nonsense.
We need to get AI to pay taxes… since the rich & the elite won’t & the unemployed can’t.
AI is another factor degrading the value of a university degree now. If all you do is take a prep-able entrance test, fill out a whole bunch of paperwork with a bot’s help, pay as much money as your family afford, and that determines how “prestigious” your degree is, why even bother? Why would any employer care if you have one, other than it proves what economic class you’re from?
The irony here is that the majors AI will have the biggest impact on is shit like Humanities, Philosophy, etc. Shit you should only be majoring in because you want to learn, not make money. But whatever, it’s their time and money that’s being wasted.
I’m still waiting for AI to take mine so I can relax
The people have been training AI…it can only give what it’s been fed.
Stop feeding it!
It’s so funny because this is all so avoidable.
Stop being so fucking lazy and make people complete tests and answer essays, by hand, in class.
Eliminate the computer element.
That was the way of things for the entire history of education until the last 20 years.
If an educator can’t figure this part out, then they shouldn’t be educating.
If an administrator has an issue with it, then they fail to grasp the purpose of education.
If a student complains about being forced to evidence they actually learned, then do they actually want to learn?
Well its the colleges own fault for implementing ai in the classroom in the first place.
Why does it feel like AI will lead to the decay of humanity and critical thinking.
The problem that I’ve run into is that search results are pretty bad.
You can revert to asking a search engine rather than a bot, but the search engine isn’t as good as it was before the bots took over.
When no one is left that actually understands the process, then you get „magic“. The anointed who have access to the technosphere and know the magic prompts can „create“, the underclass has no way to learn or progress and work the mines to keep the datacenters functional if they want their daily.
Wait until they start thinking about modern war.
Wait, why are there humans involved?
Guess the focus has to be understanding
Same thing as hiring.
Education was to help with job skills. Now it’s for personal enrichment. The Starfleet model.
I graduated undergrad in 2016 and remember using blue books on exams. Shouldn’t be that hard to implement
The real question is, why would anybody hire those students?
A chatGPT subscription is pretty cheap (for now). If kids don’t learn to outperform it (and it’s not a very high bar), why put out tens of thousands a year where less than a hundred will do?
Using AI during education sounds like generational suicide to me.
It’s not just on education.
We are entering a world of work where person A can generate tones of plausible information.
Other people don’t have the time to properly analyse and review the output. So person B will use AI. Repeat ad finitum.
Thus missing the entire point of creating info which is to inform, persuade & debate with other humans.
Reminds me of the days where auto dialers called your home phone only to get to voicemail.
Very easy fix. Lower the value of essays to demonstrate a person’s knowledge and increase the value of oral exams. Traditionally it’s been the other way round.
AI is also teaching the work. At least at the elementary level. Yep, you heard it right. My kids 6 and 4th grade teachers use AI. Between that and the stupid amount of in school screen time im starting to wonder what my taxes are actually paying for.
The reason for the problem is that college education is 90% about scoring tests and 10% about teaching. Everybody is literally teaching whatever is on the test. AI has broken that, and the fact that something as stupid as AI can teach and pass a college lit class, it kind of indicates that the class is pretty much useless anyway.
The thing is that a University is mostly selling a piece of paper. The thing is the student gets the paper whether the student learns or not. The student pays the same if they learn or not.
So, drop the tests. Offer the course. Teach the lessons. Charge the money. Let the teacher interview students, one on one, to gauge if the teacher is being effective or not for the students who want to learn.
New paradigm. If students don’t want to learn that subject, who cares. It pays the same. Let them waste their money.
Finally, teachers, understand.
I wish it could do my job. God please send me AI that can help at all. I can get it to make cool PR pamphlets. I do that for fun at the end of the day. I’m not in PR. The front end to do my work would be an incredible effort. I dont have enough repetitive work. It seems to barf when faced with numbers or equations . It doesn’t understand policy and guidance even when minutely explained. Not one even tries to use it. The contractors (private sector) are even still better than the AI.
I guess Step 1 is when the contractors try using it and giving it as a deliverable. That should be a pretty dumpster fire.
It’s pretty clever how these vile parasite tech bros fascists are deploying „AI“ to gut jobs and gut education and gut the economy.
It’s almost as if fascists want to rule over poor, uneducated people who rent everything own nothing and rely on corporations for food and technology and communication and knowledge, all of which is specifically tailored to benefit only the wealthy and put everyone else at immense disadvantage.
Well since the government dictates what a teacher is allowed to teach and cannot teach, and teachers don’t even get to make their own syllabuses or lesson plans anymore thus making them glorified babysitters (babysitters make more money by the way than teachers do)…and the local and state governments yank funding away from schools unless their students pass tests, so schools are forced to make students professional test takers but they’re not learning any real information or skills, then they have to resort to AI because these kids can’t do the work on their own. Longest since I’ve ever written there.
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proof readers and editor . they dont want to pay cost to employ more of them. on top of decent high cost one got paid.
I love how people are seriously debating this instead of just realizing they should think for themselves.
I’d rather watch a computer play Pong against itself for 72 hours straight than subject my eyeballs to AI slop for even a minute.
So like… do they not make composition books anymore? Switch from papers to written exams and oral presentations.
Corporations always fail to see you need a human in the loop regardless of how amazing your tech is.
If you want a crash course of what happens when you combine over engineering with pure automation (no HITL), watch Jurassic Park.
They would not be SOC compliant these days me thinks.
Read Jurassic Park to see the bigger jab it makes a big corporations, chapters are dedicated on shit talking big corporations last I remember reading.
Ban it.
It’s wrong (frequently dangerously so), it destroys copyright, and takes up too much power.
There is zero necessary use case for it. Why isn’t the obvious solution of forcing these corporations to get rid of it even discussed? At all?