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    Boris Pistorius (deutscher Verteidigungsminister): „Das ist nicht unser Krieg; wir haben ihn nicht begonnen“


    Boris Pistorius (deutscher Verteidigungsminister): „Das ist nicht unser Krieg; wir haben ihn nicht begonnen“

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/03/16/world/iran-war-trump-oil-lebanon/36e1e553-f42c-54c8-aa5a-38410c35f46f?smid=url-share

    Von Bunny_Commando

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    1. Bunny_Commando on

      Germany rejected a U.S. demand for military support to help reopen the Strait of Hormuz, after President Trump warned that it would be [bad for NATO](https://www.ft.com/content/1ca6d121-760b-4ec5-b6ad-514fdaa94873) if American allies did not do more to help.“This is not our war; we did not start it,” Boris Pistorius, the German defense minister, said at a news conference in Berlin on Monday. “We want diplomatic solutions and a swift end to the conflict, but sending more warships to the region will likely not help achieve that,” he said.

      “What does Donald Trump expect from, say, a handful or two of European frigates in the Strait of Hormuz?” he added. “He needs them to achieve what the mighty US Navy cannot manage on its own there, is that it? That’s the question I’m asking myself.”

    6. OkKnowledge2064 on

      Well yes, its not our war. Keeping the strait open is still a very imporant interest of Europe. Its not as easy as saying „we dont care“. The economic consequences will hit us either way

    7. CreeperCooper on

      You do not have the cards, mr. President!

      Trump hasn’t even said thank you yet!

    9. _nairual_nae on

      He said it to be sure that no one blames them.

      It’s like that meme from Simpsons with „sorry, force of habit“

    10. Fine_Violinist5802 on

      Many balk at being pushed to fight America’s wars. But Israel’s?! Dream on

    11. StrangerConscious637 on

      The orange fascists monkey in the white house started it. He should finish it now and then finish himself.

    12. soPe86 on

      Germany and eu finally found lost spine and not going to war that USA started. PM of Spain and now Germany. I’m now a little more proud of independent baby steps of EU 🇪🇺
      👍🏻

      🇭🇷

    14. Samurai_GorohGX on

      Trump just needs our help to minimise the number of US casualties… by having our soldiers dying instead.
      Won’t anyone think of the midterms?/s

    15. Hopeful_Sun_ on

      the EU should not be involved in any war! we suffered enough during the world wars, thanks

    16. Any_Table9811 on

      I don’t get how Trump can first basically demolish the trust in Nato then demand Nato help after he starts a war.

    17. An_Almond_Thief on

      Took longer than most thought, but Trump is finally being punished for his hubris. Turns out your allies will remember when you apply economical sanctions and restrict military aid. They will repay you in kind.

    20. astral34 on

      Germany, UK, Italy, France and Spain all confirmed as a no to Trump’s request, any other country with spare capabilities ?

      I guess the Netherlands will also confirm a no before or after the bilateral with Germany

    22. NoPhilosopher6111 on

      For once a world war not started by Germany.

      Edit /s
      I forgot the Germans have less chance noticing sarcasm than they do not being blamed for starting wars.

    23. jtthom on

      Article 5 only applies when a nato member is attacked. Not even sure Trump et al even know what NATO is.

    25. v_for_vegetta on

      Nato is defensive alliance. not offensive. also why they want help? they said they won already

    26. Didudidudadu737 on

      Why didn’t the Trump call on Board of Peace, after all he already won and wants peace?

    27. legz_akimbo80 on

      Is there any chance Donald has a list of countries with their telephone numbers next to them and he’s just ringing up and crossing each one off after they’ve hung up 🤣

    28. Tel_Janen on

      Get all American troops out of ramstein base

      No point in protecting ungrateful countries

    30. SapporoBiru on

      Honestly if this wasn’t about people’s lifes and didn’t affect the entire world, I’d just have an enormous amount of schadenfreude. I don’t know how many times even here on Reddit I’ve seen Americans jerk themselves about how almighty their military is and how every opponent would just fold under their power. Well looks like your orange idiot and his band of imbeciles shows that that’s not really the case. So yeah, great response from Pistorius, let them try to finish this war that they started.

    31. Skilodracus on

      Yet another reminder that the Americans view NATO as a way to employ foreign armies for their wars, but not the other way around 

    33. idee_fx2 on

      It is not our war, that is obvious enough. But if the ormuz strait is kept closed for months, what shall we do ?

      I don’t think any europeans want to drag their military into that mess but we might be forced to do something if that asshole Trump or crazy Netanyahou does not want to make a deal with Iran, we might end up forced to do *something*.

      Hopefully, it won’t come up to that and the pressure from Asia will result in a diplomatic solution.

    35. JustDracir on

      Can we move those german „reinforcements“ into Ukraine if we are at it.

    36. YahenP on

      Trump is a weakling. He just wants Europe to get tainted by his dirty dealings.

    37. Econ_Orc on

      Denmark is also „waiting“
      Besides the obvious reason our navy is busy defending Greenland there is also an election for parliament going on.
      A majority suppurt for military involvement in a foreign nation is difficult to imagine in a time when one deciding vote can shift who rules the next for years.

      Sorry Trump. We have to find all those Chinese and Russian warships around Greenland first. Protecting native soil (ice) is more important.

    38. JoJoTheDogFace on

      „Germany’s defense minister, Boris Pistorius, rejected the idea, saying, “This is not our war; we did not start it.”“

      Of course it isn’t we know Germany would never start a war against someone that wants to exterminate the Jews. They would only start a war to exterminate the Jews.

    40. xJok3ruLx on

      He’s gonna spit the “NATO doesn’t want to help us” bs he kept saying months ago once again

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