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    Das Urteil in Italien zeigt Millionen mit italienischen Wurzeln, dass sie das Recht auf Staatsbürgerschaft verloren haben

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    4. StrongFaithlessness5 on

      The law changed about 1 year ago and we did it because public offices were literally blocked by citizenship requests.

      The reason was that the old system allowed everyone with Italian roots to get citizenship, even people who had a relative that left Italy about 150 years ago. Now, of course during these 150 years these people had children, which means that there are millions of people asking for Italian citizenship and if they are rejected, they sue the office. Now, imagine public offices and tribunal courts literally blocked by millions of requests. All of this for nothing, because the entirety of these people want the citizenship to come to Europe or other countries, not Italy, because the Italian passport is very strong, so it’s not like they come here to work or other things, justifying all the efforts of the public offices.

      I’m not sure there are actually other countries with this insane old system.

    6. SpaceNigiri on

      Oh fuck, that will suck for Argentinians. Spain is full of them and almost all of them are here with Italian citizenship.

    9. RentAscout on

      I’ve noticed a trend, people returning to countries their parents left bringing in outside wages. This spikes the cost of housing that locals cannot compete with and pisses them off.

    10. civman96 on

      It was abused by everyone looking for church documents by a great great great grandfather to get a EU passport despite they themselves never visited Italy or speak Italian. Good for them that they fixed it.

    11. Baller-Mcfly on

      Nice sub blocked article. I would love to read it to find out how they are using the word roots.
      I just pulled a weed from the garden and threw it on the concrete. Its got roots in the driveway now.

    13. mcampo84 on

      No it hasn’t. There are multiple cases still up for review dealing with the issues this decree law has created. One of which being retroactivity: if you were born during a time when the Italian government recognized you as a citizen (which is what jus sanguinis is), this law stripped you of that recognition if you were unable to have already gone through the process of getting it on paper by an arbitrary date. No warning, no justification, just “you were a citizen (we just weren’t aware of your existence because your ancestors couldn’t read or write), now you’re not.”

    14. Corner_Post on

      Interesting article – first time I learnt that Italy as a country has only been around since 1861. Always would have thought it was way earlier than that

    17. Daikey on

      I think it’s worth pointing out that the way to get citizenship by descent in italy is still amongst the most generous in Europe

    18. GravesStone7 on

      Having roots in a place should not give you the rights to citizenship if you’ve never lived there nor contributed to the country. Canada recently had something introduced that seemed similar, and I would have to look into it but my opinion is the same.

      I would see having roots to a country that you have never lived in being beneficial and should be seen positively when applying for citizenship because of the historical ties. But again, it is not a free pass.

    19. DownWithTheSyndrme on

      I’m a Canadian with Italian roots.  When I was in Italy, I was instantly reminded that I was just some Canadian guy with an Italian name.  

    21. gpowerf on

      Dude! That’s it! Italy will never have a half decent baseball team ever again… they beat the USA in the 2026 WBC and it will go down in history as Italy’s best baseball performance of all time that will never be bettered…

    22. pkpy1005 on

      Team Italy in the World Baseball Classic in shambles…

      Meanwhile their opponents for tonight, Puerto Rico, are demanding a forfeit.

    24. No_Neat_9027 on

      Where’s the uproar on reddit for Italy being so anti-immigration? 

      Oh double standards you say? 

      Oh, triple standards because it’s only bad when people from the USA that are Republicans do it.  

      Good to know  

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