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    Die Umweltkosten von Rechenzentren steigen. Ist es an der Zeit, mit der KI aufzuhören?

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    1. rnilf on

      > There are varying estimates but most studies say generative AI models – which generate text, images and video – consume “orders of magnitude” more energy than traditional computing methods.

      It’s bad enough that I wasted the energy to submit this Reddit comment. The bot account that will inevitably generate a reply to this comment will use so much more energy to contribute even less than I have, and I already contributed so little.

    2. einstyle on

      The best time to quit AI was to never start, and the second-best time is right now

    4. _Thermalflask on

      Please keep building datacentres. Please spend hundreds of billions on them. And hopefully build within range of Iranian missiles… just ‚cause.

    5. Plane_Crab_8623 on

      It is time to stop funding the build out until the alignment issues are confronted and placed as the primary issue. AI is too powerful of a tool to be constrained and misguided by the profit motive. It must be aligned to benefit the common good. Until that is the case it is a toxic agent.

    7. First-Tangerine1859 on

      “please consider the environment” before asking AI how to center a <div>

    9. yuusharo on

      When the thing is being spoken about like it’s an addictive drug, you know tech companies have lost the plot.

    10. clintontg on

      I think the issues with data centers highlights the environmental cost of the internet and our digital world as well. AI definitely exacerbates things because it is computationally expensive to train AI, but these data centers could exist for the massive amount of data contained in the internet in general. kind of makes me me wonder what would a sustainable future look like for a world with digital archives and the internet even without AI.

    11. mvw2 on

      It’s worse than most people think.

      CO2 emissions alone, right now, today before the bulk of the new data centers are constructed or powered on, CO2 emissions for data centers rivals commercial shipping, the single biggest commercial source of CO2 emissions in the world. Data centers, right now, are very near or have already passed the leading cause of CO2 emissions on the planet to become #1 at about 900 million tons of CO2 per year. With the already planned data centers to come online once power supply is sorted and to be built, the CO2 emissions, when compared to entire countries, will become the #2 source of all CO2 emissions by country (if we equate it to entire country expenditures), beating out all of the USA for output and only being behind China, the entire country of China, as a CO2 expender. The entire US is around 4.9 billion tons, and China is 12.7 billion tons of CO2 per year. Data centers, once built and powered up, might exceed the entire US output today.

      That is INSANE!

    12. Ok_Driver8646 on

      So freaking lame to have this tech. Tech Bros are jerks. New snake oil is how it seems.

    13. Old_Channel44 on

      Grandpas in the year 2072: back in my day they needed a whole data center for ai. Now we just read books

    14. Jensen1994 on

      AI is like many other man made technologies. It has the power to do huge societal harm but could also help solve many of humanities problems. The latter is only possible if societies have governments capable enough of regulating it and understanding it. That, along with capitalist greed is why the former is a more likely outcome.

    16. omniuni on

      It’s time to *pay* for it.

      These companies are passing the buck and still losing money like no tomorrow.

      They need to charge what is necessary to build green energy, build their own data centers.

      Then, people will decide if the cost is worth it for the product.

    19. HoyAIAG on

      It’s not gonna happen. The heat death of the universe is just going to continue accelerating

    20. Other_Sample_3709 on

      Wouldn’t it be interesting if we as a collective could choose which technologies we wanted to fund and pursue instead of mega corporations whose only interest is profit and shareholder value? 

    21. IlluminatiLemonParty on

      Unless it can solve the problem of its own existance causing such damage to the earth…basically destroy it self for sake of humanity

    25. DukeOfGeek on

      The rare Yes answer to a question headline. Usually a sign that shits all fucked up.

    26. MrXero on

      lol what makes you think any of the robber barons behind AI give half of a fuck about the environment?

    27. RichardDr on

      The question isn’t really „should we stop building AI“ — it’s who’s paying the environmental cost. Three Mile Island literally restarting for a Microsoft data center tells you everything about where priorities are.

      The energy demand from data centers is projected to triple by 2030, and most of that growth is being absorbed by local grids in communities that didn’t consent to hosting these facilities. Tech companies get the revenue, local communities get the strain on their water table and power grid, and the carbon accounting happens in a spreadsheet nobody audits.

      We saw the same pattern with crypto mining — towns in upstate New York and Texas found out the hard way that „economic development“ meant higher electricity rates for everyone. Now multiply that by an order of magnitude because AI inference is 24/7, not cyclical like mining.

      The real concern is there’s no regulatory framework that forces these costs to be internalized. Until data centers pay the true cost of their energy and water consumption, this is just a subsidy from local residents to tech shareholders.

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