>The injuries occurred during the early morning hours of Feb. 21, when soldiers were conducting a force-on-force offensive. The temperature dropped from -18 C the day before to -43 C overnight, including wind chill.
> Drescher Brown stated that the Canadian Army members involved had received cold weather training focusing on “injury prevention, cold-weather mitigation, and rapid response drills prior to large northern exercises” but added there is no substitute for operating in the Arctic.
> During the night of the incident there was a sudden change in weather, which caused the injuries, according to Drescher Brown. “When this occurred, leaders at all levels quickly recognized these emerging injuries and had members treated as early as possible,” he added in the email.
QuantumCEM on
As this is behind a paywall I can’t read if GC/DND provided an explanation but I can share this resource for those that are curious how fast frostbite can occur:
Depending on various factors, frostbite can occur in less 5 mins…
niagarawhat on
It’s going to happen, especially if they are conducting tactics and actual field operations.
coldweathersurvivor on
-43C sucks. Even with multi layers and face protection. Everything is a effort and it hurts no matter what you do
RefrigeratorOk648 on
So the training is working. Finding issues and areas for improvement.
Savings_Macaroon7892 on
That’s cold, no doubt. But I have been out in that temperature for hours and did not get injured. Shame on the leaders in our country that allowed this to happen to those soldiers. Somebody buy them some gear.
bcbuddy on
From the Canadian military chatter. Apparently the Canadian commanding officer wanted to show off to their American counter parts how „tough“ Canadian soldiers were.
This was the result.
Bavarian_Raven on
Court marshal them. It was Finland (maybe Sweden) that use to court marshal you for getting frostbite in exercise
Finicky_Cyclone on
The Really Cold Regiment.
getsangryatsnails on
Few million in VA settlements incoming.
bakela on
Is this the exercise they showed on the news this evening where they were jumping into a frozen lake with a rope tied to them? My kid and I both commented, well that’s how you get hypothermia.
Bananasaur_ on
Just going to drop this here cuz it clearly came back to bite.
Leadership needs to be disciplined for the screwup.
Strict-Confusion-570 on
My mom’s coworker lost a finger, some have lost feet. This is sadly not new. Don’t know what can be done. They need to bring a well paid nurse onboard to check everyone every few hour-this type of thing should be literally impossible in a well managed military
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>The injuries occurred during the early morning hours of Feb. 21, when soldiers were conducting a force-on-force offensive. The temperature dropped from -18 C the day before to -43 C overnight, including wind chill.
> Drescher Brown stated that the Canadian Army members involved had received cold weather training focusing on “injury prevention, cold-weather mitigation, and rapid response drills prior to large northern exercises” but added there is no substitute for operating in the Arctic.
> During the night of the incident there was a sudden change in weather, which caused the injuries, according to Drescher Brown. “When this occurred, leaders at all levels quickly recognized these emerging injuries and had members treated as early as possible,” he added in the email.
As this is behind a paywall I can’t read if GC/DND provided an explanation but I can share this resource for those that are curious how fast frostbite can occur:
https://www.weather.gov/bou/windchill
Depending on various factors, frostbite can occur in less 5 mins…
It’s going to happen, especially if they are conducting tactics and actual field operations.
-43C sucks. Even with multi layers and face protection. Everything is a effort and it hurts no matter what you do
So the training is working. Finding issues and areas for improvement.
That’s cold, no doubt. But I have been out in that temperature for hours and did not get injured. Shame on the leaders in our country that allowed this to happen to those soldiers. Somebody buy them some gear.
From the Canadian military chatter. Apparently the Canadian commanding officer wanted to show off to their American counter parts how „tough“ Canadian soldiers were.
This was the result.
Court marshal them. It was Finland (maybe Sweden) that use to court marshal you for getting frostbite in exercise
The Really Cold Regiment.
Few million in VA settlements incoming.
Is this the exercise they showed on the news this evening where they were jumping into a frozen lake with a rope tied to them? My kid and I both commented, well that’s how you get hypothermia.
Just going to drop this here cuz it clearly came back to bite.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/13/canada-military-sleeping-bags
Leadership needs to be disciplined for the screwup.
My mom’s coworker lost a finger, some have lost feet. This is sadly not new. Don’t know what can be done. They need to bring a well paid nurse onboard to check everyone every few hour-this type of thing should be literally impossible in a well managed military