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    Volksinitiative für kostenlosen ÖPNV gestartet

    https://www.bluewin.ch/en/news/popular-initiative-for-free-public-transport-launched-3139207.html

    Von Sufficient-History71

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    2. Tballz9 on

      It seems like we would pay for it in taxes, or in fares, so why not just leave things the way they are? If cost is an issue for some they could offer some means based discount program or something.

    3. Internal_Leke on

      It sounds like a disguised tax increase.

      Public transport is already cheaper than car, I don’t think the price is the issue.

    4. Dogahn on

      Are things not already to the point where my ticket fare mostly covers keeping the public transportation system clean? With the reasonable expectation that they can’t keep a cleaner staffed on every train for every leg of its journey.

    5. Bobertolinio on

      So another tv tax situation.
      People that don’t use it will be at a disadvantage.

    7. No_Grape_388 on

      Switzerland is not socialist enough for this to pass, even though it will greatly help those that need it most.

    8. Radiant-Emergency926 on

      I wähl und stimm jo sust eher nümm so links, aber das findi glaub nid sone schlächti Idee.

      S wird eifach alles viel voller, aber es hed glaub viel positivi uswirkige.

      Grad au wenn lüüt wo sust nid so reise, mol in dr ganze schwiiz umechöme. S verbindet is irgendwie nomol meh mitenand.

      Aber halt nid irgendiwe mit ere stüür wo jede glich viel zahlt.. sött scho chli vo de riiche au gnoh werde..

    10. Rino-feroce on

      Cheap (free), high quality (clean,safe), fast (frequent, on time, dense): pick two !

    13. _simple_man on

      Stimme üblicherwiis eher links, dass ÖV gratis söll werde würd eifach meh stüüre bedüüte. Uf di ander siite gits ja inzwüsche enorm viel schwarzfahrer.

      Ich fänd gschiederi priisstrategie di besseri lösig. Einzelfahre sind eher sehr tüür, als familie / gruppe isch s’auto oftmals günstiger, döt chönd me asetze. Streckeabos find ich priislich agmesse und es GA für vielfahrer au. SBB probiert ja au immer wieder neues wie halbtax plus (irrefüerende name) oder dem My Ride, denke es wird in zuekunft eh chli besser.

      Me dörfti aber gern ortschafte i dä ostschwiiz usbaue, teilwiis sind verbindige im appenzell und thurgau sehr dürftig vorhande.

    14. white-tealeaf on

      Will be atleast 60% no and probably max 2 cantons yes. Would’ve been better to change it so cities are allowed to do it on there own if they wish. Right now, free public transport is prohibited on constitutional level.

      Sadly all swiss media has just pasted the same article that doesn’t say what actually would change and the website of the initiative also is only in french and not stating the text.

    15. Iuseahandyforreddit on

      Whilst i am absolutely for this, i give it a veeery slim chance of actually happening

    16. Cute_Employer9718 on

      As someone who is 100% in favour of public transport, I think this is a terrible idea. Free public transport in general is a bad idea. If you need to financially help people then subsidise those who need it.

      8bn CHF a year would be much better spent building better infrastructure which would drive even more people to ditch their cars. For comparison, the cost of a new much needed line from Geneva would cost 2bn.

      We’ve seen it now in Geneva, where the gratuity of public transport for youth and the elderly has increased ridership by a meagre 2% for a cost of around 60mio a year. With that money the canton could build a new tram line every 3 years and ridership would increase a lot more than that.

      And that’s in the best case scenario.

      In a very likely scenario the funding would need to be negotiated every year and an increased ridership would not be automatically compensated leading to increasing costs but stable revenue, which would eventually lead to less investments and worse maintenance while all users feel that service deteriotaes leading those who at present happily pay for transport to stay away and use private vehicles insteadm

    17. DVUZT on

      So we should subsidise overmobility and the associated urban sprawl and increased energy usage?

    19. Askir28 on

      Stupid idea: I want free ÖV so everyone else should finance it with their taxes.

    23. Primary-Economist866 on

      If you make it free you’re relying only on taxation and federal/local funding for it to work, which makes it more vulnerable to political decisions, making improvements on the network harder to achieve

    25. Special_Tourist_486 on

      We simply need free/very cheap Kitas. And ideally, health insurance price based on income. The rest is pretty fine so far.

    26. heubergen1 on

      Public transportation already needs a lot of government funding, we should focus on that instead and price it correctly.

    27. JollyQuiscalus on

      I voted in favor of the CHF 365 yearly ticket for Zurich, but I’m absolutely not going to vote in favor of this.

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