„So etwas habe ich noch nie gesehen“: Abgeordneter warnt vor zunehmenden extremen Ansichten zu Rasse und Identität

Its not really a surprise. The worst people you know are now being constantly patted on the head and told they are right by people trying to extract money and power from them.

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These proposals do seem to be intentionally so ill defined so was to be able to use them to suppress any sort of criticism of that particular religion.

Its always a motte and bailey argument too. Start with an extreme view and backtrack to something less extreme then accuse you of not being civil, and its always ‚the left‘ that is the problem, as if their one monolithic bloc hellbent on destroying Britain.

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It really doesn’t come as a surprise that we are where we are now. The demographic replacement in places like Glasgow are noticeable. You can walk the length of Sauchiehall street and the only people you’ll hear speaking English are the homeless.

People on the outskirts of Glasgow look in at it as a warning, for what’s coming for them next once it breaches containment. People are tired of being told they’re racist for noticing how bad things have gotten in their homes by outsiders that show up at the weekend with pre-printed signs to tell them to be more welcoming, before going home to their suburbs.

The whole asylum system has been utterly, utterly mismanaged.

Get in a time machine. Scroll through r/unitedkingdom in 2020 and then scroll through it today. Night and day doesn’t do justice to how much its changed…..

Who woulda thought, people seeing their communities change and not wanting to be demographically replaced develop ‚extreme‘ views. I went into Derby to look at a car awhile ago and driving through one street I thought i got teleported to the Middle East, hijabs and shops with foreign names as far as my eyes could see, certainly no integration going on in many areas and people obviously see this

It would help if you made all social media display where in the world posters were from, and went after bot farms properly. Reading some of the comments here, you can tell there’s a campaign to spread diversion just from the word choices used.

Indigenous, for example, was never used in far right rhetoric because the various waves of historical settlers like the Norman’s and vikings were taught in school. Now the word is everywhere.

>“It’s not about blasphemy laws or anything like that. This is about anti-Muslim hatred, which has a racial element to it.

There’s no need to introduce blasphemy laws when they already effectively exist.

When someone tries to kill you for burning a religious book and the book gets thrown at you (and not the person who threatened you and then returned with a weapon), that’s a de-facto blasphemy law.

When governments are reluctant to take serious action against rape gangs based on the ethnicity and religion of the perpetrators, you have a de-facto blasphemy law as the government sees denying justice to the victims an acceptable cost for social cohesion.

When a teacher is forced into hiding over displaying religiously offensive material, you have a de-facto blasphemy laws.

When the mother of an autistic child has to go crawling on her hands and knees in a mosque because her child did something religiously offensive, you have a de-facto blasphemy law.

There’s no point in arguing if a definition will introduce something when it already exists.

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If the left hadn’t spent the last 20 years telling white people that they are evil, we probably wouldn’t be in this mess

People have always had these extreme views. They just kept it behind closed doors, and with the rise of social media, the mask is dropping off as you can see these communities interacting in the public.

That’s because they’ve not had their eyes open for the past twenty years, and so it’s come to this. I’ve been wondering since about 2003 when society would finally work up the courage to ask „Do we want this?“, because sure as fuck no one was asked if they did.

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There’s two parts to this I think.

One is that the rise of social media and online media more generally means people are split into echo chambers, news is delivered in a clickbait manner, and that means intentionally stirring up division to get more ‚engagement‘. Pick any debate and you’ll see the extremes of both sides being pandered to.

But also, people have fairly legitimate demographic and ideological concerns. The article mentions things changing after 2001: well, yes, we’d just been given a clear indication that political Islam was a direct threat to us in the west. That was even more true in 2005 when Muslims born and brought up in England showed they they, too, were a direct terrorist threat, and integration was (at least for some individuals) a lie. Obviously it is not all Muslims but how do we know which ones it is? And unlike skin colour, a religious ideology is a choice, and one that aligns with political positions that a lot of people don’t want to see become more prevalent.

It isn’t *only* Muslims, there are some imported brands of Christianity that are trying to take us down the same road, and they should also be resisted. Islam is also an expressly political ideology and that has real effects on UK democracy, as you can see from single issue Gaza candidates last year.

On the demography point: ethnic Brits are now a minority in several places in the UK, and if you get down to certain suburbs, they are almost entirely removed. Ethnicity may not be that important but it’s a proxy for culture, and that *is* important – it’s what makes Britain feel British. People from other places see that happening and don’t want it to happen to their town too.

This is made far worse by the Boriswave migration policy and illegal immigration, when you have huge numbers of people coming then (i) that causes demographic replacement wherever they end up living and (ii) they are much less likely to integrate because there are a lot of people from the same culture so they don’t need to.

Racism is bad, but we need to be sure that attempts to counter it don’t also cause problems for challenging religion and ideology, or reasoned discussions about our own culture and what valuable parts of that we should actively preserve from change.

That what happens when you make everything about race and identity. FFs, I cant even not like a tv show now, without being called a sexist, racist homophobe.

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