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    Zwei Frauen, die in Irland geheiratet haben, fechten die Weigerung der Regierung an, ihrer Tochter einen Reisepass zu gewähren


    Zwei Frauen, die in Irland geheiratet haben, fechten die Weigerung der Regierung an, ihrer Tochter einen Reisepass zu gewähren

    https://www.thejournal.ie/two-women-who-married-in-ireland-challenge-governments-refusal-of-passport-for-their-daughter-6979820-Mar2026/

    Von SpottedAlpaca

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    1. Dazzling-Handle88 on

      Good luck to them. It’s been over ten years since the Marriage Equality referendum. I get that it’s complex but the government’s dragging of their feet when it comes to giving equal family rights to same sex parents is criminal.

    2. Adjective_Noun_2000 on

      The headline omits the important detail that one of the women is Irish, which is far more relevant than the fact that they got married in Ireland. Their daughter should be granted a passport due to her Irish mother but the state refuses to recognise their relationship.

    4. asdrunkasdrunkcanbe on

      Ugh. This is a difficult one and I recall there was a lot of debate and discussion around this when they were overhauling laws around IVF and surrogacy and the like.

      I’m not sure how far this one will go. From the perspective of the Irish state, the child is no different to a child born to a father who is not married to the mother.

      The child doesn’t automatically become an Irish citizen because its mother’s spouse is Irish.

    5. aurumae on

      The article and the comments here seem to think this is an issue around equal rights for same sex couples but I’m not convinced that is the case. The issue here is that the woman giving birth is not an Irish citizen, and the child was conceived through IVF in the UK. If we imagine a heterosexual couple where the man is infertile and the woman is not an Irish citizen and the couple decides to conceive using IVF in the UK, would that child have rights that are any different to this same sex couple? If not, then it’s the laws around granting citizenship to babies conceived through IVF that need to change, for both same sex and heterosexual couples.

    6. Otherwise-Drama-8586 on

      They did the same with my son- although they granted him a passport then revoked it as I was not the woman who birthed him. Broke my heart.

    7. TheMadEscapist on

      Always good to hear that the government is wasting their time, and our money, making someones life more of a hassle for no good reason. Just give her the passport ffs it’s not complicated.

    8. MushroomBig1861 on

      Basically, the law is, if you don’t have a functioning uterus or testes, you can’t pass citizenship onto any children. It matters not whether you’re homosexual, heterosexual or whatever.

    9. Status_Silver_5114 on

      People’s willingness here to excuse the state’s antiquated and inequitable take on both IVF and same sex couples is astounding.

    11. PapiLondres on

      This has arisen before with heterosexual couples , Irish mother needs to legally adopt child , which is what an Irish father would need to do too ..,

    12. NoBookkeeper6864 on

      Personally I would be going to New Zealand, fuck living in Ireland 😅

    13. geneva2016 on

      Why are my taxes being wasted on such a non issue? Give the passport.

      Or they could just give a donation to Bertie.

    14. outlander83 on

      If the child gets really good playing soccer they’ll throw passports at her.

    15. Uncleshanethesailor on

      They are married her relationship with the child is not recognised by the state and this is wrong.

    16. No_Construction_8503 on

      The child is biologically the daughter of one parent (her egg), but was carried by her wife. Only the mother who gave birth is considered her parent. It’s absolutely ridiculous and has been going on years.

    17. Dislexicpotato on

      So the baby was born in New Zealand, the mother that gave birth to the baby is from New Zealand and the baby itself is not living in Ireland.

      Why the hell would they be entitled to an Irish passport?

    18. lakehop on

      Changing the law could lead to some interesting scenarios. For example, say if the law took the most broad view of what a “parent” is for the purpose of passing down citizenship: anyone who births a child, is a DNA parent, who adopts a child, or who or is married to a person in any of these categories at the time of the birth of the child. In theory, someone from another country using donated eggs or sperm from an Irish citizen could claim Irish citizenship for the resulting baby. In fact now that I think of it, I wonder if that’s already the case? Is there an exclusion for donated gametes? Could be a loophole more people could exploit …

    19. crankyandhangry on

      „It is submitted that The Passport Office by email, dated 3 November 2025, responded to the application stating that under Irish law, the parents of a child born outside of the State “are, broadly considered to be the child’s birth mother, married to the man, who is the child’s genetic father, and a presumption of paternity applies in respect of her husband, or the child’s adoptive parents”.

      „The response also says, it is submitted, that “citizenship by descent is provided for in the Act, which provides that a person is an Irish citizen from birth, if at the time of his or her birth either parent was an Irish citizen, or would, if alive, have been an Irish citizen”. “

      Does this mean that if a child is born abroad to a non-Irish mother and Irish father who are not married, that the child is not entitled to Irish citizenship either, even if he is on the child’s birth certificate? The wording above only mentions that the mother is married to a man who is presumed to be the genetic father, or adoptive parents. It doesn’t mention actual genetic father.

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