That’s really freaking cool! The idea of nobles was always stupid and even entertaining the idea of them is silly.
NTJ-891 on
Better late than never, but I find it really amusing that this has been a thing for 3x longer than my country has existed.
Icantgoonillgoonn on
But still allowing them lifetime membership.
“The lords put up a fight, forcing a compromise that will see an undisclosed number of hereditary members allowed to stay by being “recycled” into life peers.”
CyanConatus on
Hereditary power is solely designed to retain power at the expense of the average person.
Power should be elected or earned.
FaintFolio on
We finally did it. We are no longer tied with Lesotho as the only two countries on Earth with hereditary legislators. Progress only took 700 years, but hey, who’s counting?
EagleRise on
kinda wild they even had this
Gone_4_Tea on
Handing power to political shills and lapdogs, party donors and basically whoever the fine upstanding elected house feel like cramming in the place.
I am not a fan of inherited authority from the Monarchy down, but at least there was a semblance of checks and balances provided without fear of electoral consequence.
stjeandebrebeuf on
How tf did this work
k_ferrer25 on
kind of cool, 700 years of a tradition, even if its not the most inclusive one.
700 years ago, US didn’t even exist, and Russia was the size of Belgium. But UK still had families in their parliament from that time. Kind of unimaginable.
Its like if China was still ruled by Yuan Dynasty, or mongols still ruled half of Asia.
D4DWGN on
Jesus. Andrew is too dumb to think of it on his own, but someone is liable to point out that he is the cause of this.
Fidel_Costco on
Good. Good.
steve_ample on
Good work.
jxj24 on
Magical Blood is not a qualification for office.
CarltonCatalina on
What’s the hurry?
softlysnowing on
Absolute bullshit
>The lords put up a fight, forcing a compromise that will see an undisclosed number of hereditary members allowed to stay by being “recycled” into life peers.
CMG30 on
I believe there is a lot of merit to a portion of government that is composed of people who are not beholden to an ongoing political process. It serves to tamp down the insanity of the day to day political nonsense enabling a bigger picture view.
That said, how such a body is selected is key. Turning the keys over to a bunch of entitled brats whose only qualification was which birth canal they came out of is no way to run a selection process.
Fantastic-Corner-605 on
Congratulations, the only people who don’t work for the government are gone.
Certain_Shake_5157 on
Do they still own all the lands that they had before? I don’t really see a difference
FeralPrethoryn on
Another Jeff Epstein ripple effect…
Expert-Length871 on
Better late than never.
I suppose…
hat1337 on
Can someone explain this is plain English like to a child? I’m not from the UK and I don’t understand the article
rhox65 on
wow so soon?
_Middlefinger_ on
I know people hate the Lords as a concept, but historically they have tempered the worst of the commons desires. They are a lot more level headed and reasonable than people realise.
They are part of the UK checks and balances.
S-on-my-chest on
It’s about damn time…
IgnoranceIsTheEnemy on
People will look back on this when the lords is packed with political appointees and no longer functioning as a check and balance and… probably not care, because they would cut their own nose off to spite their face.
George_Rogers1st on
I read the article but it’s still not clear to me: are the Brits getting rid of The House of Lords and replacing it with a democratically elected upper chamber of Parliament, or are they just telling all the nobles that they actually have to be worth a damn to participate in the government and not just related to some guy who got a land grant for winning a minor battle 650 years ago?
rjptrink on
Entitled rich run the show no matter their title, no matter the country. Same old same old.
AdSevere1274 on
Now they need mandatory retirement age and maximum number of years in power.
Baulderdash77 on
They are effectively moving to something like Canada has, sans the age cap.
The Canadian senate is a bit of a strange unelected chamber as well that sometimes has use but more often than not is just an expense.
This is the last piece of feudalism leaving European legislation. Cool turning of the page of history.
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That’s really freaking cool! The idea of nobles was always stupid and even entertaining the idea of them is silly.
Better late than never, but I find it really amusing that this has been a thing for 3x longer than my country has existed.
But still allowing them lifetime membership.
“The lords put up a fight, forcing a compromise that will see an undisclosed number of hereditary members allowed to stay by being “recycled” into life peers.”
Hereditary power is solely designed to retain power at the expense of the average person.
Power should be elected or earned.
We finally did it. We are no longer tied with Lesotho as the only two countries on Earth with hereditary legislators. Progress only took 700 years, but hey, who’s counting?
kinda wild they even had this
Handing power to political shills and lapdogs, party donors and basically whoever the fine upstanding elected house feel like cramming in the place.
I am not a fan of inherited authority from the Monarchy down, but at least there was a semblance of checks and balances provided without fear of electoral consequence.
How tf did this work
kind of cool, 700 years of a tradition, even if its not the most inclusive one.
700 years ago, US didn’t even exist, and Russia was the size of Belgium. But UK still had families in their parliament from that time. Kind of unimaginable.
Its like if China was still ruled by Yuan Dynasty, or mongols still ruled half of Asia.
Jesus. Andrew is too dumb to think of it on his own, but someone is liable to point out that he is the cause of this.
Good. Good.
Good work.
Magical Blood is not a qualification for office.
What’s the hurry?
Absolute bullshit
>The lords put up a fight, forcing a compromise that will see an undisclosed number of hereditary members allowed to stay by being “recycled” into life peers.
I believe there is a lot of merit to a portion of government that is composed of people who are not beholden to an ongoing political process. It serves to tamp down the insanity of the day to day political nonsense enabling a bigger picture view.
That said, how such a body is selected is key. Turning the keys over to a bunch of entitled brats whose only qualification was which birth canal they came out of is no way to run a selection process.
Congratulations, the only people who don’t work for the government are gone.
Do they still own all the lands that they had before? I don’t really see a difference
Another Jeff Epstein ripple effect…
Better late than never.
I suppose…
Can someone explain this is plain English like to a child? I’m not from the UK and I don’t understand the article
wow so soon?
I know people hate the Lords as a concept, but historically they have tempered the worst of the commons desires. They are a lot more level headed and reasonable than people realise.
They are part of the UK checks and balances.
It’s about damn time…
People will look back on this when the lords is packed with political appointees and no longer functioning as a check and balance and… probably not care, because they would cut their own nose off to spite their face.
I read the article but it’s still not clear to me: are the Brits getting rid of The House of Lords and replacing it with a democratically elected upper chamber of Parliament, or are they just telling all the nobles that they actually have to be worth a damn to participate in the government and not just related to some guy who got a land grant for winning a minor battle 650 years ago?
Entitled rich run the show no matter their title, no matter the country. Same old same old.
Now they need mandatory retirement age and maximum number of years in power.
They are effectively moving to something like Canada has, sans the age cap.
The Canadian senate is a bit of a strange unelected chamber as well that sometimes has use but more often than not is just an expense.
This is the last piece of feudalism leaving European legislation. Cool turning of the page of history.