As Avi loves to point out, Jack Layton lost several races before he became leader too. Its not a disqualifying factor.
Heck, Tommy Douglas, as leader, lost his seat in two elections. Its a tradition!
Gym_frere on
For me, anyone in this leadership race needs to pass a simple test: which one can run in a select Western Canada riding, and win? Reason: the future of the party is in Western Canada where coincidentally the provincial NDP parties are also the strongest. We have already seen Lewis try twice and fail (and he will assuredly fail again). McPherson as we know is already a sitting MP. Maybe the only other one who could win a riding is Rob Ashton because of his working class populist appeal.
This leadership race is the most significant one in our party’s history, either we decide we finally want to be a serious party like the provincial parties or if we’ll forever be a protest party. Electing Lewis as leader means we’re gonna be more of the latter.
If Lewis wins the race then sadly I have no choice but to give up my membership as he will take the party far beyond its roots and its intentions. He is literally the worst candidate, it should either be McPherson (prairie pragmatist) or Ashton (significant blue collar appeal).
This looming disastrous decision will in my opinion finish the party for good. I’m looking forward to 5-10 years from now when someone will try to start an NDP offshoot party and call it Labour or something like that. This race was supposed to be a battle for the soul of the party and it hasnt been that at all so why should we bother with it? We clearly need a new vehicle for working class appeal and democratic socialism. It’s a sad truth that no one is really willing to talk about.
Oomicrite on
I’d prefer Ashton or Johnston but I’m fine with Lewis, I just don’t want McPherson to win. If NDP is just going to be Liberal lite than what’s the point
samjp910 on
The ‘despite past loss’ thing is so overblown to me. Plenty of people run three or four times before making it into office. Some people JUST run for office and never hold another job.
KASwim on
Isn’t this the guy who said he doesn’t think we should be spending even 2% on defence? He thinks we should spend less?
PurfectProgressive on
So let me get this straight… this far-right media outlet is claiming that a candidate’s inability to win their own seat is evidence that they shouldn’t be the leader? Huh, I wonder what they think about a situation where the existing leader is unable to win their own seat as the incumbent. Surely that is even more disqualifying, right? 🤔
CaptainCanusa on
He certainly gets people riled up! That’s something I guess.
I personally don’t think he’s the right choice for the health of the party or the country (or my desire to see progressive values borne out in policy) but I honestly don’t know who the right choice is right now. I’ll have to do more research.
Gryzelda_Gesualdo on
What I find particularly stupid about this article is that it uses a betting platform as it’s only source to assert Lewis is leading. Like a betting platform has even a hint of legitimacy. When I want information, naturally I ask a bunch of degenerate gamblers and unquestioningly accept their conclusions.
That being said, I hope Rob Ashton wins, as he is the only candidate with the right credibility and focus to win back blue collar union voters and return the NDP to its working class roots. Lewis is just another nepobaby poseur. He’s a straight from central casting Limousine Liberal on par with Jagmeet. Until the NDP acknowledges that Canada exists west of Toronto, they will continue to be a protest vote for urban elites and uni students. If they can’t win back blue collar voters, they are dead in the water and Lewis is the exact wrong guy to do that. People respond to authenticity and when it comes to understand the needs of people who work for a living, Lewis has none.
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As Avi loves to point out, Jack Layton lost several races before he became leader too. Its not a disqualifying factor.
Heck, Tommy Douglas, as leader, lost his seat in two elections. Its a tradition!
For me, anyone in this leadership race needs to pass a simple test: which one can run in a select Western Canada riding, and win? Reason: the future of the party is in Western Canada where coincidentally the provincial NDP parties are also the strongest. We have already seen Lewis try twice and fail (and he will assuredly fail again). McPherson as we know is already a sitting MP. Maybe the only other one who could win a riding is Rob Ashton because of his working class populist appeal.
This leadership race is the most significant one in our party’s history, either we decide we finally want to be a serious party like the provincial parties or if we’ll forever be a protest party. Electing Lewis as leader means we’re gonna be more of the latter.
If Lewis wins the race then sadly I have no choice but to give up my membership as he will take the party far beyond its roots and its intentions. He is literally the worst candidate, it should either be McPherson (prairie pragmatist) or Ashton (significant blue collar appeal).
This looming disastrous decision will in my opinion finish the party for good. I’m looking forward to 5-10 years from now when someone will try to start an NDP offshoot party and call it Labour or something like that. This race was supposed to be a battle for the soul of the party and it hasnt been that at all so why should we bother with it? We clearly need a new vehicle for working class appeal and democratic socialism. It’s a sad truth that no one is really willing to talk about.
I’d prefer Ashton or Johnston but I’m fine with Lewis, I just don’t want McPherson to win. If NDP is just going to be Liberal lite than what’s the point
The ‘despite past loss’ thing is so overblown to me. Plenty of people run three or four times before making it into office. Some people JUST run for office and never hold another job.
Isn’t this the guy who said he doesn’t think we should be spending even 2% on defence? He thinks we should spend less?
So let me get this straight… this far-right media outlet is claiming that a candidate’s inability to win their own seat is evidence that they shouldn’t be the leader? Huh, I wonder what they think about a situation where the existing leader is unable to win their own seat as the incumbent. Surely that is even more disqualifying, right? 🤔
He certainly gets people riled up! That’s something I guess.
I personally don’t think he’s the right choice for the health of the party or the country (or my desire to see progressive values borne out in policy) but I honestly don’t know who the right choice is right now. I’ll have to do more research.
What I find particularly stupid about this article is that it uses a betting platform as it’s only source to assert Lewis is leading. Like a betting platform has even a hint of legitimacy. When I want information, naturally I ask a bunch of degenerate gamblers and unquestioningly accept their conclusions.
That being said, I hope Rob Ashton wins, as he is the only candidate with the right credibility and focus to win back blue collar union voters and return the NDP to its working class roots. Lewis is just another nepobaby poseur. He’s a straight from central casting Limousine Liberal on par with Jagmeet. Until the NDP acknowledges that Canada exists west of Toronto, they will continue to be a protest vote for urban elites and uni students. If they can’t win back blue collar voters, they are dead in the water and Lewis is the exact wrong guy to do that. People respond to authenticity and when it comes to understand the needs of people who work for a living, Lewis has none.