Hut ab vor Spanien und Frankreich, die Trump nicht den Hintern geleckt haben, es ist in diesen Zeiten so schwierig, alles beim Namen zu nennen. Gedanken?

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-strikes-on-iran-outside-international-law/

Von Time_Dust_2303

31 Kommentare

  1. Consider that we are so used to lies, to bowing our heads in front of the USA, to being behind everything they do, that when someone calls things by their name and tells the truth, it seems unusual and courageous.

    In any case, I’m with Spain and France.

  2. Wonderful-Variation on

    America is not going to survive 3 more years of this; it’s just not.   No country can, no matter how rich or powerful.

    The priority for other countries has to be disconnecting themselves from the sinking ship as much as possible before it goes under.  

  3. It seems like Macron and Sanchez are nowadays the political leaders of a proud and independent EU.

  4. sokorsognarf on

    Spain has the luxury of being able to do it what it wants, fortunate enough to be situated in the most geopolitically benign corner of Europe. Same applies to Portugal. Further east, complications, risks and dilemmas increase

  5. I wish NL did that, too. Instead, they twiddle their thumbs while our old prime minister keeps sucking Trumps ass in Nato.

  6. It’s not difficult. Canada has been telling Trump to fuck himself since day one.

  7. MrPloppyHead on

    Macron does seem to have stepped up to the plate over the US christo fascist bs.

    It’s ironic that MAGA is responsible for the demise of the US. Putin will be pleased with his work.

  8. Haunting-Detail2025 on

    This sub: we support Ukraine Slava Ukraine fuck Russia!

    Ukraine: we really like that one of Russia’s biggest allies whose drones and missiles have killed our people is being dethroned

    This sub: umm ackshually ☝🏻🤓, Spain is goated for not lifting a finger to help Ukraine and throwing a fit when Cheeto man decapitated one of Russia’s biggest allies. And yes I still think he’s a Russian agent despite him knocking out Russian spheres of influence one by one. Shut up Ukraine

  9. Hat off to France big time. Spain? The country that doesn’t send money to Ukraine because it’s too far from the border? Idk about that…

  10. My dream is having Italy taking the same route, but I don’t see it happening.

  11. Narcisistagohome on

    Europe will have to deal with a big wave of refugees, higher oil and gas prices, inflation, security threats like in Cyprus, Russia strengthened by higher fossil fuel prices and Ukraine weakened because the lack of weapons. And all this only in the best case where the whole Middle East doesn’t go nuts as consequence of the unrest all this situation is creating.

    Everything because the American president is a demented old man supported by extremists and unable to manage proper international relations, and needs to cover his involvement in a pedophile ring. 

    The whole Europe should fly away from this conflict ASAP, even if this means denying the Americans the use of any European instalation. 

  12. Final-Artichoke-8995 on

    It’ll be funny a week from now when everything in spain is just fine and the rest of the world realizes they can do the same thing. As an American, I hope they do. The only way to hurt trump is real economic pressure on his friends. Do it.

  13. diamanthaende on

    You can think that Trump is a reckless idiot and still be „sober“ enough to see the Realpolitik angle. Not everything is black and white, as this sub so very typically believes.

    Regime change in Tehran is in Europe’s own interest, as it further weakens Russia, ending arms deliveries and know-how transfer, e.g. the Shahed drones that have been so devastatingly effective against Ukraine. Russia loses its last (and most important) ally in the region, while it’s also a big blow to China who have been supplied with oil and gas below market price for decades by the Iranians. Not to mention the threat that the Mullah terror regime poses to Europe itself.

    Plus, the Iranian people, after having been abandoned and slaughtered for decades, deserve to be freed from the Mullah scum. Go tell them that they have to endure the oppression for years to come because „international law“ disagrees with intervention.

    Does it mean that you achieve that through bombing campaigns, that it will definitely work? Of course not. But at least there is a chance for a more moderate Iranian regime in future, which would be a real blessing for the region as a whole. And it would be a blessing for Europe. The status quo was unsustainable and a potentially nuclear armed Iran unacceptable, *especially* for us here in Europe.

    If Europe wants to be taken seriously, it should do less moral posturing and more seeing the world for what it is – a lot of grey.

  14. Sir_Delarzal on

    I’m afraid that, seeing how it is going, next year France won’t shine as much on the international scene…

  15. ReoPurzelbaum on

    Why do people still read politico? I mean, do some research what kind of media you consume and especially share and therefore support!

  16. Pale_Investigator433 on

    Lets turn our support into something more tangible, lets support France and Spain by buying their products.

  17. Africaspaceman on

    Cómo le jode a los bots que España no quiera gsstar el 5% que exige Trump… Anda que no es fácil distinguir los perfiles bots actuando en grupo, lo siguiente es intentar hacerse con la administración del sub Europa.

  18. bot_for_hire_ on

    Coming from Romania, I have more sympathy for Spain rather than France. The first one (Spain) seems to act more driven by morality and common sense, the other one is just afraid of losing power and status…

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