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> The U.S. health regulator has allowed billionaire Elon Musk’s Neuralink to implant its brain chip in a second person after it proposed to fix a problem that occurred in its first patient, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.
> Neuralink expects to implant its device in the second patient in June and a total of 10 people this year, the report said, adding that more than 1,000 quadriplegics had signed up for its patient registry.
> The company also aims to submit applications to regulators in Canada and Britain in the next few months to begin similar trials, according to the report.
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Redditors today: “The FDA is totally compromised and at the whim of the corporations who are willing to harm us for money.”
Redditors 3 years ago: “The FDA is a trustworthy organization and can successfully test the dangers of a brand new medical product, so you’re basically a traitor if you don’t trust the vaccine.”
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Regardless of what you think of Elon, this is seriously a great thing and far more people are involved than him; he just likes putting his name on things and be a spokesperson pretending everything is his idea, it’s just the way he is. In the actual paper & citations, you won’t find Elon’s name anywhere. Too many posts about Neuralink focus on his involvement, which aside from funding and hiring is essentially zero.
The neurosurgeons and biomedical engineers working at the forefront of technology to make this happen are the ones responsible, and I hope it continues to help people. It’s absolutely crazy to me that you can implant 90+ threads of 5 nanometer wires into someones brain without damaging it, to an incredible level of precision (I’m sure eventually a surgery will go wrong; complex surgeries always have failure rates) and train yourself within a month to do complex tasks on a computer without moving a physical device.
It’s easy for those of us who are fully functional to criticize problems with the monkey and rat trials when people who are fully paralyzed would give anything to have a *chance* at being able to interact with the world in some ways. The potential applications can go *way* beyond just moving a mouse on a computer. We are talking the ability to control limbs, prosthetic hands in the future to a much higher level of precision than any prosthetic we have now. It’s real sci-fi cyborg shit, but we really aren’t that far from being able to do it. Also, right now we are only working with a device that uses *half a watt* of power and weighs 11 grams.
As long as those undergoing the trial surgeries understand the risks, and I’m sure they do, have at it. The FDA has plenty of issues like pretty much all of our government organizations, but the FDA isn’t allowing this for people who don’t truly need it; I don’t see an issue with them approving Neuralink to go ahead in a case like this.
edit: For those unfamiliar with the details and want to learn more, [here’s the white paper](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6914248/) explaining how Neuralink works & the implantation process. Incredibly cutting edge stuff.
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> The U.S. health regulator has allowed billionaire Elon Musk’s Neuralink to implant its brain chip in a second person after it proposed to fix a problem that occurred in its first patient, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday.
> Earlier this month, Neuralink said tiny wires implanted in the brain of its first patient had pulled out of position. Reuters [reported](https://www.reuters.com/technology/musks-neuralink-has-faced-issues-with-its-tiny-wires-years-sources-say-2024-05-15/) last week, citing sources, the company knew from animal testing that the wires might retract.
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> Neuralink expects to implant its device in the second patient in June and a total of 10 people this year, the report said, adding that more than 1,000 quadriplegics had signed up for its patient registry.
> The company also aims to submit applications to regulators in Canada and Britain in the next few months to begin similar trials, according to the report.
Redditors today: “The FDA is totally compromised and at the whim of the corporations who are willing to harm us for money.”
Redditors 3 years ago: “The FDA is a trustworthy organization and can successfully test the dangers of a brand new medical product, so you’re basically a traitor if you don’t trust the vaccine.”
Regardless of what you think of Elon, this is seriously a great thing and far more people are involved than him; he just likes putting his name on things and be a spokesperson pretending everything is his idea, it’s just the way he is. In the actual paper & citations, you won’t find Elon’s name anywhere. Too many posts about Neuralink focus on his involvement, which aside from funding and hiring is essentially zero.
The neurosurgeons and biomedical engineers working at the forefront of technology to make this happen are the ones responsible, and I hope it continues to help people. It’s absolutely crazy to me that you can implant 90+ threads of 5 nanometer wires into someones brain without damaging it, to an incredible level of precision (I’m sure eventually a surgery will go wrong; complex surgeries always have failure rates) and train yourself within a month to do complex tasks on a computer without moving a physical device.
It’s easy for those of us who are fully functional to criticize problems with the monkey and rat trials when people who are fully paralyzed would give anything to have a *chance* at being able to interact with the world in some ways. The potential applications can go *way* beyond just moving a mouse on a computer. We are talking the ability to control limbs, prosthetic hands in the future to a much higher level of precision than any prosthetic we have now. It’s real sci-fi cyborg shit, but we really aren’t that far from being able to do it. Also, right now we are only working with a device that uses *half a watt* of power and weighs 11 grams.
As long as those undergoing the trial surgeries understand the risks, and I’m sure they do, have at it. The FDA has plenty of issues like pretty much all of our government organizations, but the FDA isn’t allowing this for people who don’t truly need it; I don’t see an issue with them approving Neuralink to go ahead in a case like this.
edit: For those unfamiliar with the details and want to learn more, [here’s the white paper](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6914248/) explaining how Neuralink works & the implantation process. Incredibly cutting edge stuff.