I don’t want them or the French anywhere near GCAP. It’s going well thank you very much.
Beautiful_Bad333 on
I’d be happy for them to join as long as we get unfettered access to the European Defense fund in return for a reasonable fee like Canada’s £10m, instead of the £6bn they wanted out of spite for us leaving the EU.
PeriPeriTekken on
Maybe they could just buy some of the planes once they’re ready, rather than adding another partner with random demands to the project at the outset.
DeniedByPolicyZero on
As far as i understand, they are free to become a non voting partner, can even have some of the work share, but the agreement will have stipulations that they cannot redesign anything in the design.
LostInTheVoid_ on
Workshare changes this deep into the project probably aren’t something the UK, Japan or Italy would be game for. Buying I’m sure we’d all be very happy to accept Germany. I’m sure we’d also in theory be okay to work with them on integrating German weapon systems. But I think all the partners are pretty happy with their workshare % and don’t want to decrease their share of local production for a new member this late in the game so to speak.
GCAP is certainly a better fit for the Luftwaffes doctrine and operation set more so than what FCAS does that’s for sure. Both France and Germany aren’t getting along well with their project currently.
hebrewimpeccable on
Given there is supposedly a tech and engine demonstrator flying at Farnborough this year and the full test bed airframe flying next year, I can’t see how the Germans would contribute outside of potentially building some components for their own order domestically. But another nation operating GCAP/Tempest can only be a good thing
PequodarrivedattheLZ on
Germany can buy.
Fuck bringing them into the project.
They already tried to derail the entire point of the eurofighter like three times.
Plus at this stage any more work share changes would among other things annoy Italy and Japan over something that already took alot of negotiation.
Asleep-Ad1182 on
Well, Germany should allow British citizens to use E-gates, then
Caramel-Foreign on
Is this because they need the engines to be built at the RR plant in Germany?
Habemus_Username on
Ironic that it’s a Anglo-Italian-Japanese project, with the Germans on the outside.
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I don’t want them or the French anywhere near GCAP. It’s going well thank you very much.
I’d be happy for them to join as long as we get unfettered access to the European Defense fund in return for a reasonable fee like Canada’s £10m, instead of the £6bn they wanted out of spite for us leaving the EU.
Maybe they could just buy some of the planes once they’re ready, rather than adding another partner with random demands to the project at the outset.
As far as i understand, they are free to become a non voting partner, can even have some of the work share, but the agreement will have stipulations that they cannot redesign anything in the design.
Workshare changes this deep into the project probably aren’t something the UK, Japan or Italy would be game for. Buying I’m sure we’d all be very happy to accept Germany. I’m sure we’d also in theory be okay to work with them on integrating German weapon systems. But I think all the partners are pretty happy with their workshare % and don’t want to decrease their share of local production for a new member this late in the game so to speak.
GCAP is certainly a better fit for the Luftwaffes doctrine and operation set more so than what FCAS does that’s for sure. Both France and Germany aren’t getting along well with their project currently.
Given there is supposedly a tech and engine demonstrator flying at Farnborough this year and the full test bed airframe flying next year, I can’t see how the Germans would contribute outside of potentially building some components for their own order domestically. But another nation operating GCAP/Tempest can only be a good thing
Germany can buy.
Fuck bringing them into the project.
They already tried to derail the entire point of the eurofighter like three times.
Plus at this stage any more work share changes would among other things annoy Italy and Japan over something that already took alot of negotiation.
Well, Germany should allow British citizens to use E-gates, then
Is this because they need the engines to be built at the RR plant in Germany?
Ironic that it’s a Anglo-Italian-Japanese project, with the Germans on the outside.