At what point will the Liberals drop this embarrassment of a program?
It’s stupidly expensive with zero positive merit and practically every province and a ton of cop shops have come out to oppose it. Hell even the guy supposedly running the program doesn’t believe in it.
It’s so fiscally irresponsible it’s not even funny.
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Ooof, that’s brutal. A lot of what they are looking to collect isn’t even worth that much and they are looking at having a ton of backend cost while somehow being unwilling to fully compensate every participant. That’s just a costly and poorly run project by every metric. And this is without accounting for the fact that it won’t achieve any of its stated aims.
With numbers like this rolling in, and a seeming never ending series of police departments checking out, you’d think the federal government would take the off ramp.
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The actual cost per firearm was always going to be many times the average „payout“ per firearm.
The LPC spent years kicking this can down the road because they knew it would be an astronomical sum/very difficult to ever fully enforce the ban. They were able to even expand it several times, while still never starting enforcement, imo because they expected to lose the next election. Then they would be able to campaign on the CPC cutting it, while also not having to do it themselves.
Unfortunately, this didnt work out, and now they have to try and roll it out. They are doing the bare minimum, by only budgeting really enough for the previously Restricted class firearms(approx 130,000 firearms) that are registered and easy to pick up. No money for the far larger group of Non-Restricted firearms, and by pretending they dont exist, they get to look like they got a higher percentage of affected firearms.
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And with that they are only realistically going to capture maybe 5% of oic prohibited firearms.
How is it costing this much? Because these “smart” folks hired ibm who took two years to tell them maybe folks could mail them.
I really don’t get why they can’t just admit it was a bad idea to ban these guns, and just scrap the whole things, make your next renewal free as an apology and move on.(making the renewal free cost the government nothing as it’s still going to cost them the same to keep everyone employed and working in the CFP, and honestly the 160-200 million in renewal fees over 5 years that they could collect is nothing, you could find 40 million a year in savings with ease in the rest of the rcmp budget. If they are that hard up for cash.)
The only folks who really want this are die hard anti gun nuts, and guess what they don’t want to open their wallets, they are free at literally anytime to go buy back everyone’s guns to destroy them if they want. (But they won’t spend their own cash.)
Also this entire time Carny and his cronies are harping on buy Canadian and support Canadian business, right after they destroyed what would/will amount to hundreds of businesses, 1000s of jobs, and billions each year in economic activity. It’s frankly insulting to hear him harp “elbows up” but then literally threaten to send armed thugs to raid folks if they continue doing what they were doing for decades.
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This is on a self-published website, with no links to verifiable sources. The article shoots out a lot of numbers, but none that can be verified. The number cited here is based on calculations using unverifiable sources.
Specifically, the source for numbers used for firearms is just given as „the government“, without referring to any department or website where these numbers can be verified. It cites the beginning period of the count as January 17 (presumably 2026) but does not cite the end date of the count.
For the $800M price tag (I assume this is what used in their calculation), it just cited the number as „documented“, without citing a source where it can be verified. It appears to compile this amount by adding together two sources. The largest is cited as „$673.4M earmarked by Public Safety for the ASFCP since 2021“ without citing the source, or more importantly. how much of this money has been spent.
So it appears they are deliberately manipulating numbers to inflate the amount in an attempt to push the narrative that this is a waste of money. They take an amount allotted to be spent during the entire course of this program and compare it to the number of guns collected during a very short period of the program (Jan 17 2026 to unspecified date).
This article in unsubstantiated.
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At what point will the Liberals drop this embarrassment of a program?
It’s stupidly expensive with zero positive merit and practically every province and a ton of cop shops have come out to oppose it. Hell even the guy supposedly running the program doesn’t believe in it.
It’s so fiscally irresponsible it’s not even funny.
Ooof, that’s brutal. A lot of what they are looking to collect isn’t even worth that much and they are looking at having a ton of backend cost while somehow being unwilling to fully compensate every participant. That’s just a costly and poorly run project by every metric. And this is without accounting for the fact that it won’t achieve any of its stated aims.
With numbers like this rolling in, and a seeming never ending series of police departments checking out, you’d think the federal government would take the off ramp.
The actual cost per firearm was always going to be many times the average „payout“ per firearm.
The LPC spent years kicking this can down the road because they knew it would be an astronomical sum/very difficult to ever fully enforce the ban. They were able to even expand it several times, while still never starting enforcement, imo because they expected to lose the next election. Then they would be able to campaign on the CPC cutting it, while also not having to do it themselves.
Unfortunately, this didnt work out, and now they have to try and roll it out. They are doing the bare minimum, by only budgeting really enough for the previously Restricted class firearms(approx 130,000 firearms) that are registered and easy to pick up. No money for the far larger group of Non-Restricted firearms, and by pretending they dont exist, they get to look like they got a higher percentage of affected firearms.
And with that they are only realistically going to capture maybe 5% of oic prohibited firearms.
How is it costing this much? Because these “smart” folks hired ibm who took two years to tell them maybe folks could mail them.
I really don’t get why they can’t just admit it was a bad idea to ban these guns, and just scrap the whole things, make your next renewal free as an apology and move on.(making the renewal free cost the government nothing as it’s still going to cost them the same to keep everyone employed and working in the CFP, and honestly the 160-200 million in renewal fees over 5 years that they could collect is nothing, you could find 40 million a year in savings with ease in the rest of the rcmp budget. If they are that hard up for cash.)
The only folks who really want this are die hard anti gun nuts, and guess what they don’t want to open their wallets, they are free at literally anytime to go buy back everyone’s guns to destroy them if they want. (But they won’t spend their own cash.)
Also this entire time Carny and his cronies are harping on buy Canadian and support Canadian business, right after they destroyed what would/will amount to hundreds of businesses, 1000s of jobs, and billions each year in economic activity. It’s frankly insulting to hear him harp “elbows up” but then literally threaten to send armed thugs to raid folks if they continue doing what they were doing for decades.
This is on a self-published website, with no links to verifiable sources. The article shoots out a lot of numbers, but none that can be verified. The number cited here is based on calculations using unverifiable sources.
Specifically, the source for numbers used for firearms is just given as „the government“, without referring to any department or website where these numbers can be verified. It cites the beginning period of the count as January 17 (presumably 2026) but does not cite the end date of the count.
For the $800M price tag (I assume this is what used in their calculation), it just cited the number as „documented“, without citing a source where it can be verified. It appears to compile this amount by adding together two sources. The largest is cited as „$673.4M earmarked by Public Safety for the ASFCP since 2021“ without citing the source, or more importantly. how much of this money has been spent.
So it appears they are deliberately manipulating numbers to inflate the amount in an attempt to push the narrative that this is a waste of money. They take an amount allotted to be spent during the entire course of this program and compare it to the number of guns collected during a very short period of the program (Jan 17 2026 to unspecified date).
This article in unsubstantiated.