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    OpenAI hat gezeigt, dass es nicht vertrauenswürdig ist. Kanada braucht eine verstaatlichte, öffentliche KI

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    1. OnSnowWhiteWings on

      Tech bros say the darndest things (this is the second time I’ve seen this posted before mods remove it)

    2. TROPtastic on

      While there may be some immediate objections along the lines of „Canada cannot afford to compete with the US megacorps“, I like this response by a commenter on /r/singularity:

      >The point wasn’t that Canada needs to compete with OpenAI, etc. Canada just needs domestic options more generally. Hitting small to moderate scale LLMs is totally achievable. There’s a rich ecosystem of code for speedrunning smaller models up to the 1B range which could be extended to the 8B range without being absurdly expensive (say what you will about the Canadian economy, but doing a $100,000 training run for an optimized 8-14B pipeline is still possible).

      >It wouldn’t even take a huge team. You could take those experiences, and keep extending, scaling, doing ablations, iterating rapidly on power curves, and you could probably get up to a reasonable range for a domestic option in around a year (again, without needing a full lab of top tier talent) of around a ~32B scale model for the millions or so, which is entirely justifiable to have a national option to avoid pure reliance on foreign modes.

      >Pair that with a smart strategy of partnering with US companies for frontier needs, and European / Chinese OSS models for the middle ground (bigger than domestic, smaller than frontier) and you have a pretty smart semi-domestic strategy without going nuts on spending.

      If partnerships with specific US companies are needed, we can do much worse than partnering with Anthropic, which has at least decided to stand up to the Trump admin in defence of basic regulations.

    3. MusclyArmPaperboy on

      Is there an option with no AI?

      This is all short term productivity boosts for long term unemployment

    4. NovoRobot on

      This is about the BC shooting? I still fail to realize how AI is at fault here. It didn’t pull the trigger, and it didn’t raise the child.

      It didn’t buy the guns and leave them for their mentally ill child to easily get access too.

      AI is not even .01% at fault here.

    5. free-canadian on

      I was literally banking on our lovely media putting something out like this real soon. Because we just HAVE to get the government involved in absolutely everything. What difference would’ve a nationalized public AI made here? ChatGPT didn’t tell that monster do to what he did.

    6. scott_c86 on

      I think we need to look at AI regulation more seriously. And while we are at it, update Canada’s Privacy Act.

    7. bristow84 on

      Look, I’m all for rah-rah-rah’ing against AI and LLMs and the various companies pushing them but unless the logs have been released detailing exactly what the shooter said/looked up/asked saying THIS is the reason it cannot be trusted feels a bit premature.

      I’m also just against thought crimes generally as it becomes a massive slippery slope.

    9. ahu_huracan on

      I mean I come from a poor country that it’s GDP is like the GDP of Montreal, but I cannot understand why there is national „twitter“ and national „facebook“ and national AI …

    13. WestyCanadian on

      Building a national LLM sounds great until you realize the price tag it involves and you would still be using GPUs from US companies. Canada is not capable of manufacturing Semi-conductors and memory chips at scale.

    14. Jalex2321 on

      People should snap out of the AI trend… AI isn’t where most people think it is, and once you understand how it works, you see how unreliable and faulty it is.

    17. rattlehed on

      The problem is not that open ai can’t be trusted, it’s that ai can’t be trusted

    18. Hurtin-Albertn on

      Then we can have an AI just like CBC that filters the context and edits photos to make the governing party look better and villianize any dissenting opinions!

    19. Insensibilities on

      I think we need to get some data centres capable of training and/or running models. That infrastructure makes sure we cannot be cut off from AI models in the event of further deterioration of relations with the US. We could actually partner with the big guys to try to get them to run the model serving Canadians in Canada. In a way that would be data sovereignty. It would also reduce the snooping on Canadians by foreign parties.

    20. Due-Concert4324 on

      Who will develop artificial intelligence if most talented Canadians are employed by US companies?

    21. mintyfresh888 on

      We should nationalize a bunch of things like oil, natural gas, utilities

    22. Birdybadass on

      You don’t want your government being the sole source of information dissemination. What are these people advocating for? This is dystopian.

    25. hairyconary on

      Funny how people assume if one half of a sentence is true, the second half must be as well.

    26. goebelwarming on

      Your better off by forcing companies to ensure personal data remains canada.

    27. Vlad_Eo on

      There’s literally no possible route to a nationalized AI software, there’s no expertise or leadership in Canada’s government on that front.

    28. esveda on

      The last thing is we need is a liberal government running a “nationalized ai” in Canada. I guess we can just create a simple algorithm that spits out random quotes at how amazing carney and the liberals are for Canada and that hallucinates fabricated plausible sounding “facts” to back it up. CBC and ctv can use it as sources for all their news and analysis. It will be a great success /s.

    29. Kahless12 on

      Personally owned, locally hosted AI on your own hardware is probably the road forward for me. At least in the short/med term, I don’t trust any of big A.I. players or governments (yes including ours).

    31. waerrington on

      Yes, the government that brought us ArriveCan is going to build a competitive AI to Anthropic or OpenAI. 😂

    35. ARunOfTheMillPerson on

      What if we…oh I don’t know, didn’t spontaneously make billion dollar plans based on what happened in last week’s news cycle?

    37. iguessithappens on

      It’s too early. Let all the AI companies burn the capital until cheaper models come out. Or do what the Chinese are doing and train your model on anthropic’s output. 

    38. rpawson5771 on

      One that just provides details from Heritage Moments and about house hippos.

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