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    Warum baute ein Land im Nahen Osten, das den Zweiten Weltkrieg durch Tanzen und Sonnenbaden in Tel Aviv überlebte, angesichts israelischer Artikel und Kommentare stattdessen seine gesamte nationale Identität auf dem Leid Polens und seines Volkes während des Zweiten Weltkriegs auf und begann dann, Polen dafür zu hassen?

    Warum baute ein Land im Nahen Osten, das den Zweiten Weltkrieg durch Tanzen und Sonnenbaden in Tel Aviv überlebte, angesichts israelischer Artikel und Kommentare stattdessen seine gesamte nationale Identität auf dem Leid Polens und seines Volkes während des Zweiten Weltkriegs auf und begann dann, Polen dafür zu hassen?

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    Von jamcer

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    3. Enough_Ad5892 on

      Because Jews must Always be the ultimate victims. Admitting some Europeans were good, helped them, did anything would be against that agenda. It would make us harder to hate, and we must be hated, because we are goyim

    4. Wintermute841 on

      I dislike Israeli ultra-nationalist attitudes and blatant demonization of Poles by some Israelis as much as the next guy, but the state of Israel declared its independence in May 1948 so calling them a country prior to that ( like during WW II ) is quite a bit of a stretch.

      If you bother to look into arguments coming from anti-Israeli arabs/muslims, the date of establishment of the state of Israel is sometimes used as justification of their negative attitude towards it.

    7. Oldsoldierbear on

      here in the UK, most people have no idea what Poles went through, during and after WWII.

    8. Baxterousness on

      Arguing historical ignorance by perpetrating historical ignorance is only going to lead to more arguments and less understanding.

      I agree that Israeli commentary on Poland can be misguided and offensive, but asking „why is the nation of Israel defined by the Holocaust?“ is stupid and you shouldn’t stoop to it.

      Remember that when you read inflammatory things, the audience often is not you – it is their own extremists at home. That doesn’t make it less wrong or hurtful, but it should be useful context.

    9. PartyMarek on

      During the second world war there existed no such thing as a country of Israel. So the title of the post is misleading.

      The poor state of Polish-Jewish relations is the fault of Israel as much as it is the fault of Poland. By solely blaming Jews for the state of our relations without any self critique you’re only feeding into the century long feud.

    10. kubaqzn on

      There is a saying “If you don’t know what something is about, it’s about the money”

    11. KindRange9697 on

      You realize that 700k Jews came to Israel in the first 4 years of its existence between 1948 and ’52. That is close to double what the entire Jewish population of the British Mandate for Palestine was in 1939.

      One-third of all Holocaust survivors immigrated to Israel in those early years.

    13. Val2K21 on

      Actually this post is not even original, as I saw literally it last year. Same photo, same title. And yet, I’ll provide the same answer: Israel didn’t survive WWII by dancing and sunbathing in Tel Aviv, because it didn’t yet exist as a state. A big chunk of its current population came post-WW2 from many places in Europe, including Poland, traumatised by the experiences no less than Polish population (plus add another layer of Nazis hunting Jews out specifically because of who they are). It doesn’t excuse quite a few objectively wrong things Israel did in different points of its existence, but this particular example is complete rubbish.

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