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    1. deekamus on

      As if I NEED your services. Internet will still work, just find new places to be.

      EDIT: I’ve been around since dial up BBS was common. There’s ALWAYS something to do and somewhere else to be.

    2. EmbarrassedHelp on

      There is no such thing as anonymous or privacy protecting age verification.

    3. Time-Industry-1364 on

      It’s important to understand that this typically has nothing to do with “keeping children safe” or encouraging online safety: it’s about data collection and warrantless surveillance. It’s easy to get people and companies in line with the idea if you brand it as a safety initiative.

      There have already been countless breaches that did considerable damage.

    4. Zer0C00L321 on

      Data harvesting is spreading across the internet. There, fixed the title.

    5. mx3goose on

      The day you ask me to submit my ID or Face scan is the day I no longer use whatever you are offering. this is the internet there is 10 other places/apps just waiting for you to slip up and replace you.

    6. boris_squanch on

      Yeah I’m not ever doing a face scan or giving my ID for anything on the internet

    8. 07Ghost_Protocol99 on

      On the plus side of all this, going back to websites that are ignoring these laws has been fun. Reminds me of the old internet in the 2000s

    10. BritSysAdmin on

      There’s merits to the safeguarding argument, but digital IDs on a technical level are not a good solution which is why this feels more like authoritarianism. These services are often not secure, and we’ve seen many examples of personal data from age verification services being leaked despite claims of face scans being deleted. The ‚ai‘ route, does anyone trust the judgement of these systems to ‚automatically‘ detect a users age based on activity? The false negatives could be harmful there.

      I believe if we put too much faith in these 3rd party systems it further removes parental responsibility and could lead to more serious safeguarding issues when (not if) a child circumvents the systems and accesses harmful content.

      Here in the UK when you sign up for broadband it’s often the case that your router blocks adult content by default, and you manually have to change this setting. It would be a much better solution to regulate the broadband providers and require them to have simple interfaces that make it easy for non-technical parents to block adult content on only their kids devices for example. Combined with the increasingly good parental controls on devices such as ios and android, this would largely solve the problem more effectively than digital IDs.

      Nick Clegg, former deputy prime minister, described in his book ‚how to save the internet‘ that when he and his colleagues were first elected to parliament they had civil servants and intelligence services coming to them straight away trying to scare them about how unsafe the internet is and why digital ID’s and VPN blocks would be in the national interest. It seems to me that this worked when Labour were elected.

    13. beaviscow on

      I can’t wait for this to happen because the free market will win. All of these companies are consolidating their polices for big brother’s surveillance and people will always look for the better alternative.

      Watch all of these software giants crash because of unpopular policies.

      If this pushes us back off the internet, so be it. I think it’s safe to say we’re all slowly preparing for this catalyst.

    16. MalaproposMalefactor on

      websites need those age-specific quizzes like the Larry games had instead of ID verification

    20. DaveWells1963 on

      I’m 62 years old. I will NEVER provide my ID (Drivers license, etc) to any website to prove my age.

    21. ALittleCuriousSub on

      Anyone wanna get a betting pool going?

      How long until sex ed material and resources for sexual abuse are stuck behind age gates so younger victims can’t get help.

      People demonize sex ed in the US endlessly. Why? They make morally outrageous claims about young children and sex ed as though the point is to enable preteens to have sex with each other. The reality is, if you with hold information from children,it denies them the vocabulary to explain to others what is going on and it denies them the knowledge anything is even wrong to begin with.

      Sex regressive policy is harmful to children and all of these laws have the potential to increase victimization! Most of the time children are abused by people who know them are are trusted by them or otherwise trusted members of the community. If people are legitimately concerned about minors being exploited why not work to end child marriage in 34 states?

    22. russcass on

      I think wealthy politicians want to know what you think, what they can use to control you, and finally what will force you off of the internet which slows down communication of news. Sad times. It was a good run.

    23. ZilorZilhaust on

      A friend of mine said he didn’t see what the big deal was as China did it. I was so surprised by that sentence. I shouldn’t have been given my friend’s hostory, but I was.

    25. Jonnyflash80 on

      To all tech companies out there,

      The first time I see „verify your age“ on your service, website, or app, I am immediately deleting it and canceling any subscription I may have. You will never get another dime from me.

    26. Guilty-Mix-7629 on

      Every site demanding ID verification becomes an additional place for you to get doxxed and/or your identity stolen.

      I only did it for THE site where my job runs onto as they needed to see I’m a properly registered freelancer. But any social, chat app, videogame, site requiring it? No. Not happening. I’m going elsewhere. I’m going _nowhere_ if there are no alternatives. I will not see my ID permanently stored left and right by corporations who get millions of  users leaked every week and wait for it to be stolen over this idiotic stunt.

      If I was to go to a club, they’d ask for the ID, but they’re not taking a picture of it to sell to best offerer.
      So why do these companies have the right to store a photo of it in a place I cannot control?

    27. Furious_ShackstAa on

      Normalising ID checks for everyday internet use is a huge step toward mass surveillance, don’t be fooled this isn’t about safety it’s about control

    28. DQTD on

      They are saying it’s to protect the kids but at the same time do nothing about the Epstein files. This is how you know it’s BS.

    29. gizamo on

      Translation: Anti-privacy is moving across the Internet.

      These laws need to be at the system level, and they should not track ages in numbers.

      Any site or app that requires age verification should simply get a Yes/No from the operating system (Windows, Mac, Android, iOS, Linux) to confirm if the user is old enough. Personal info should be held confidentially at the system level.

    32. erov on

      So shitty. It will be used against you eventually. Ive been on the „internet“ in some form since the early 90s. Mass adoption via smartphones in the 00s lead to a peak and then its been downhill ever since the mid 10s to present day. The spirit is dying. Or Im just getting to be an old man.

    33. mjd5139 on

      They should add this to political donation websites and see if politicians still think its a good idea.

    34. Wonderfullyboredme on

      We need to start fighting back against this. Just saying use Linux or “I will just go outside” is not practical anymore. Most services banking, health etc are requiring these types of things but also silly stuff like parking apps

    35. rrousseauu on

      If I see age verification on a website I immediately leave it and never go back and just find another option that doesn’t ask for that.

    36. Hydrottle on

      I really hope Matrix becomes more popular and developed. It’s a really cool backbone. Decentralized but interoperable. Just needs more support. It would help bring back the days of IRC-like chats.

    37. ohpuhlise on

      are we gonna have to move to tor entirely at some point to stay anonymous on the internet?

    39. rock0head132 on

      I have mixed feelings about this I want to keep young kids away from toxic SM but IDK about the info shearing whit big tich

    40. dropthemagic on

      Look at what happened to discord. Shame really. These companies have so many data leaks etc. even if they didn’t I’m not scanning my face to be able to download a free to play game on a phone lol

    41. OpinionatedNoodles on

      My opinion is that people are going to start creating fake IDs with AI and using them to pass verification checks.

    42. Dauvis on

      Correction: anonymity dies on the Internet. Let’s call the real reason for these laws out.

    44. ul90 on

      That’s really bad. It’s a move started by some country leaders to kill all privacy and to enforce more control on the people. Free speech is their enemy, and this is one approach to fight this.

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