Some people treat the U.S. like the only option. Turns out, it’s not. And honestly, other countries have better healthcare + vacation.
Imaginary-Ad-7919 on
USA just sucks when Trump is a President, just as simple as that.
tom90640 on
We aren’t coming back. There’ll be 20-25 years of something that resembles the US but that’s about it. No country in the world will sign an agreement/treaty that is for more than 3 years because they know that the next administration may not honor it. You can’t conduct worldwide business 3 years at a time. We’ll have trouble going to any country because we’ll be disease carriers without vaccinations. No will trust our food exports because we can’t prove it’s regulated. All elections will be endlessly in court. The supreme court will become a rubber stamp of corruption, the difference will be it’s out in the open. Pardons will be on a cash basis. We’re already losing brain power at the best universities and it’s going to get worse. This anti-DEI shit will taint hiring/promotion decisions for at least a decade. Nobody from the current admin will go to prison and maxwell will be released.
CautiousChampion4740 on
Greatest country in the world and people are running away from it, Trump is a meracilous failure.
MiserableDucky on
Good for you if you’re able to leave. The rest of us have to try and fix what’s being broken because we have no other choice.
galaapplehound on
I think about this all the time. I don’t know how I feel about leaving all I’ve ever known and everyone I love. I don’t know what the US will look like in 10 years but I’ll probably still be here.
Upstairs-Egg on
“I guess that’s mor diabetes for me!” reply the MAGA fuckers
SweetAlyssumm on
Paywalled, I wonder what this actually says.
TrueLegateDamar on
I live in a quiet northern town in the Netherlands, and I’ve started to hear more American accents in the off-season when tourists are few, making me wonder how many have taken up residence.
CosmoLamer on
Can confirm. Moved 9 months ago, I make less money but my quality of life is much greater.
Fastluck83 on
Cool, won’t say no to skilled immigrants.
gpnrunxm on
No time to read it cause I have to work, as I am stuck here. How and where do they go instead?
twirlingmypubes on
To quote a Screeching Weasel lyric, „I would if I could but I don’t have any money.“
magotter on
Yeah? How do you join them? I want off this ride.
InvertedEyechart11 on
Next thing you know, Trump will be demanding the USA build a wall to keep Americans in, and have the USA pay for it 🙄
CryptoCentric on
*Rookie Numbers.
A lot more of us would leave if we could.
BraveRice on
So glad to be a dual citizen of Japan. Honestly the safest country and actually livable.
paolilon on
Such a bullshit article – they’re fleeing the US for obvious reasons. Republicans have made the US unlivable.
ShadowFire09 on
Left during the first Trump presidency. Best decision of my life wouldn’t change a thing.
Not_a_werecat on
Must be fucking nice to have that option…
Listening_Heads on
Yes, many of them hogtied in the back of vans. I hope someday that there’s restitution for these people and consequences for ICE.
ErnieCuneo on
I have dual US/Italian citizenship. Moved to Ireland in 2019. Never moving back.
My wife works for a global company, we are seriously considering London. The only thing holding us back right now is our high school aged kids.
nonsensestuff on
I’m working on getting my Canadian passport through the new generational pathway. It’s surreal to be considering leaving altogether— esp since I’ll be leaving behind everyone I know and love— but I have health conditions that make me extremely vulnerable to the bullshit this administration is doing. So gotta do something to try to save myself at this rate
SoFlaSterling on
Many Americans are descended from immigrants who knew when it was time to head for the exits and get their butts to the US. Many of them know that by doing so, their ancestors avoided a lot of death and trauma and gave their descendants a good life for 100+ years. The Americans leaving in this era are simply carrying on that tradition.
Cagnazzo82 on
Understandable. The rest of the world doesn’t have to deal with deranged republicans worshipping lying criminals.
PaymentTurbulent193 on
This was my original plan but I’m still in school. =/
Throwawayconcern2023 on
Paywall
Particular-Bike-9275 on
What’s funny about that is that one of the main arguments for giving wealthy and corporations lower taxes in the big beautiful bill is that it encourages people to come to America to do business.
Seeing so many Americans leaving the country makes me think that’s a bullshit concept.
RenideoS on
Thing is it isn’t just this, is it? I mean, if you want to raise children, going to a place where school shootings aren’t a thing, where there’s universal healthcare if something goes wrong, where you have more time to spend with them due to mandatory leave, where you can get parental leave following births, where infant and maternal mortality are much lower etc etc
It’s a materialistic question that existed before any of this, and it was always more left-leaning people who tended to leave because they were more likely to have travelled, to be educated, to realise it could be better elsewhere, and to be able to manage to achieve that move.
You see this in a lot of societies that enter into this spiral, where the demography of the society tilts because, frankly, the people who definitely stay increasingly do things to push those who might leave away.
MoxyGirl8118 on
Been looking into this for a while. Sometimes it’s just to relieve the grief of missing pre-Trump America. While not perfect, the rest of the world still respected us and we still respected Democracy.
One interesting tidbit I learned is unless you denounce your U.S. citizenship, you still have to file U.S. taxes based on worldwide income. There are some foreign programs that help to alleviate or eliminate this like Foreign Earned Income Exclusion and Foreign Tax Credits.
permabanmaybe1 on
Entitled people get to do more than the average person, yeah.
Roman_Suicide_Note on
that what they want
arwinda on
So, migration to another country? While the homeland cracks down on migration.
It is ironic, isn’t it?
(I’m aware that the people leaving the US are not necessarily supporting the current US politics)
rsmith72976 on
Lucky bastards
Jerk182 on
Fuck no, stay and fight. America is a great place to live without Trump and all his enablers. I’m old and I grew up here. Fuck Donald Trump and his Russian Mafia friends. Remember Helsinki.
PutzerPalace on
I’ve been in Mexico for three months now. Temporary residency visa. I’m so much happier! We’ll see if I can make it all work with my employer (they are working on a secondment to allow me to stay past 6 months) I pray pray pray it gets approved because I don’t not want to go back in 3 months.
My ancestors escaped the Holocaust – I would be dishonoring their quick and hard work if I just stayed and didn’t try to escape – plus my husband and children are Mexican American and they feel hunted everyday in the US. We refuse to live in fear because our countrymen were too stupid and racist to vote correctly
Azmtbkr on
I feel conflicted about this, as a millennial, the country has been a complete fucking disaster for all but a few years of my adult life, I don’t feel that I owe it anything. It kind of feels like being married to a violent, narcissistic, aggressively stupid spouse. Oddly, I still have a desire to fight to make it better for those that I love.
Brent_L on
Way ahead of them.
cantbrainwocoffee on
We are leaving in two years. My husband holds a passport from an EU country in addition to the US. We have kids and I hope they come too but they’ll all be adults by the time we leave so the decision is theirs.
Jujubatron on
Naah please stay in your own country. Half of you don’t know what a woman is the other half thinks other countries pay your tariffs.
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gee i wonder why
Some people treat the U.S. like the only option. Turns out, it’s not. And honestly, other countries have better healthcare + vacation.
USA just sucks when Trump is a President, just as simple as that.
We aren’t coming back. There’ll be 20-25 years of something that resembles the US but that’s about it. No country in the world will sign an agreement/treaty that is for more than 3 years because they know that the next administration may not honor it. You can’t conduct worldwide business 3 years at a time. We’ll have trouble going to any country because we’ll be disease carriers without vaccinations. No will trust our food exports because we can’t prove it’s regulated. All elections will be endlessly in court. The supreme court will become a rubber stamp of corruption, the difference will be it’s out in the open. Pardons will be on a cash basis. We’re already losing brain power at the best universities and it’s going to get worse. This anti-DEI shit will taint hiring/promotion decisions for at least a decade. Nobody from the current admin will go to prison and maxwell will be released.
Greatest country in the world and people are running away from it, Trump is a meracilous failure.
Good for you if you’re able to leave. The rest of us have to try and fix what’s being broken because we have no other choice.
I think about this all the time. I don’t know how I feel about leaving all I’ve ever known and everyone I love. I don’t know what the US will look like in 10 years but I’ll probably still be here.
“I guess that’s mor diabetes for me!” reply the MAGA fuckers
Paywalled, I wonder what this actually says.
I live in a quiet northern town in the Netherlands, and I’ve started to hear more American accents in the off-season when tourists are few, making me wonder how many have taken up residence.
Can confirm. Moved 9 months ago, I make less money but my quality of life is much greater.
Cool, won’t say no to skilled immigrants.
No time to read it cause I have to work, as I am stuck here. How and where do they go instead?
To quote a Screeching Weasel lyric, „I would if I could but I don’t have any money.“
Yeah? How do you join them? I want off this ride.
Next thing you know, Trump will be demanding the USA build a wall to keep Americans in, and have the USA pay for it 🙄
*Rookie Numbers.
A lot more of us would leave if we could.
So glad to be a dual citizen of Japan. Honestly the safest country and actually livable.
Such a bullshit article – they’re fleeing the US for obvious reasons. Republicans have made the US unlivable.
Left during the first Trump presidency. Best decision of my life wouldn’t change a thing.
Must be fucking nice to have that option…
Yes, many of them hogtied in the back of vans. I hope someday that there’s restitution for these people and consequences for ICE.
I have dual US/Italian citizenship. Moved to Ireland in 2019. Never moving back.
giftrd article [https://www.wsj.com/us-news/americans-leaving-the-us-migration-a5795bfa?st=k6k3Yn&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink](https://www.wsj.com/us-news/americans-leaving-the-us-migration-a5795bfa?st=k6k3Yn&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink)
My wife works for a global company, we are seriously considering London. The only thing holding us back right now is our high school aged kids.
I’m working on getting my Canadian passport through the new generational pathway. It’s surreal to be considering leaving altogether— esp since I’ll be leaving behind everyone I know and love— but I have health conditions that make me extremely vulnerable to the bullshit this administration is doing. So gotta do something to try to save myself at this rate
Many Americans are descended from immigrants who knew when it was time to head for the exits and get their butts to the US. Many of them know that by doing so, their ancestors avoided a lot of death and trauma and gave their descendants a good life for 100+ years. The Americans leaving in this era are simply carrying on that tradition.
Understandable. The rest of the world doesn’t have to deal with deranged republicans worshipping lying criminals.
This was my original plan but I’m still in school. =/
Paywall
What’s funny about that is that one of the main arguments for giving wealthy and corporations lower taxes in the big beautiful bill is that it encourages people to come to America to do business.
Seeing so many Americans leaving the country makes me think that’s a bullshit concept.
Thing is it isn’t just this, is it? I mean, if you want to raise children, going to a place where school shootings aren’t a thing, where there’s universal healthcare if something goes wrong, where you have more time to spend with them due to mandatory leave, where you can get parental leave following births, where infant and maternal mortality are much lower etc etc
It’s a materialistic question that existed before any of this, and it was always more left-leaning people who tended to leave because they were more likely to have travelled, to be educated, to realise it could be better elsewhere, and to be able to manage to achieve that move.
You see this in a lot of societies that enter into this spiral, where the demography of the society tilts because, frankly, the people who definitely stay increasingly do things to push those who might leave away.
Been looking into this for a while. Sometimes it’s just to relieve the grief of missing pre-Trump America. While not perfect, the rest of the world still respected us and we still respected Democracy.
One interesting tidbit I learned is unless you denounce your U.S. citizenship, you still have to file U.S. taxes based on worldwide income. There are some foreign programs that help to alleviate or eliminate this like Foreign Earned Income Exclusion and Foreign Tax Credits.
Entitled people get to do more than the average person, yeah.
that what they want
So, migration to another country? While the homeland cracks down on migration.
It is ironic, isn’t it?
(I’m aware that the people leaving the US are not necessarily supporting the current US politics)
Lucky bastards
Fuck no, stay and fight. America is a great place to live without Trump and all his enablers. I’m old and I grew up here. Fuck Donald Trump and his Russian Mafia friends. Remember Helsinki.
I’ve been in Mexico for three months now. Temporary residency visa. I’m so much happier! We’ll see if I can make it all work with my employer (they are working on a secondment to allow me to stay past 6 months) I pray pray pray it gets approved because I don’t not want to go back in 3 months.
My ancestors escaped the Holocaust – I would be dishonoring their quick and hard work if I just stayed and didn’t try to escape – plus my husband and children are Mexican American and they feel hunted everyday in the US. We refuse to live in fear because our countrymen were too stupid and racist to vote correctly
I feel conflicted about this, as a millennial, the country has been a complete fucking disaster for all but a few years of my adult life, I don’t feel that I owe it anything. It kind of feels like being married to a violent, narcissistic, aggressively stupid spouse. Oddly, I still have a desire to fight to make it better for those that I love.
Way ahead of them.
We are leaving in two years. My husband holds a passport from an EU country in addition to the US. We have kids and I hope they come too but they’ll all be adults by the time we leave so the decision is theirs.
Naah please stay in your own country. Half of you don’t know what a woman is the other half thinks other countries pay your tariffs.