„Wir fragen uns, ob wir hier willkommen sind“ – Einwanderergruppen äußern Unsicherheit und Besorgnis über den finnischen Staatsbürgerschaftstest



Well the citizenship not need be hard. Eg respect women, respect silence on public transport, laws if you fight, a bit of history, what to if someone bumps you and you spill a drink etc. Why not get to know the country you are gonna live in. Ps i am an immigrant. Does not have to be university level. Just like what 10yr olds need to know. 

Every other country in the World has citizenship tests long before Finland so …

What is the issue? Citizenship isn’t something cereal box-thing, citizenship even here in Finland is a serious thing – that need commitment. If this is some problem, perhaps better way is to try somewhere else?

Is there evidence that the problem that this policy is designed to address a) exists and b) is actually helped by the policy, considering how much this will cost? We’re looking at adding an extra round of bureaucracy, and I’d sure hope all that tax payer money is not being spent on a feels-based policy, just to bully foreigners.

Why is everyone so daft to want to move to a country with a huge unemployment crisis is beyond me.

I got my degree and moved on and started my career elsewhere, if I stayed in Finland it’s likely I would only have four years of being ghosted to show on my CV and become basically unemployable

I genuinely don’t get what the whining is about. I’m an immigrant too. I came to Finland on purpose because I actually respect what this place stands for. Learned the damn language, did my military service like everyone else, dragged myself through uni, got the degree—and yeah, the job market kicked me in the teeth anyway. So now I grind in a job out of my field while building my own business on the side. I don’t scream in public, I don’t demand everyone bend to my old culture, I conform because that’s the deal I signed up for when I chose Finland over my old mess.
I’m grateful as hell for what this country still gives me, even in these crap economic times. The world has never been fair. Outsiders have had to prove themselves for millennia, and even then some locals will hate you just because. If it’s not your foreignness, it’s something else—stupid people are eternal. So what? Cry in the corner forever? Grow up and move the fuck on. Life’s bigger than perpetual bitching.
I didn’t even know benefits existed for my first few years here—I was too busy actually integrating. But let’s be real: post-2015, certain countries straight-up advertise Europe’s welfare buffet. People flock here not to build or respect, but to collect. That’s not immigration; that’s opportunism.
To my own people who moan nonstop: if you hate it this much, pack your bags and GTFO. Stop trying to turn Finland into the shithole you fled. I love this country—it saved me from the dumpster fire I left.
And to the woke ‚refugees welcome‘ crowd clutching pearls: wake up. A ton of the men and boys showing up (illegally or via asylum) got strong-armed by family back home—’go first, chain the rest in later so we aren’t separated.‘ They pay barbaric smugglers (often their own countrymen) who treat them like cattle for cash. Funny how Europe’s soft policies end up bankrolling those human-trafficking scum.
Not every immigrant, sure—but enough to poison the well and create real backlash. Integration isn’t rocket science: learn the language, respect the culture, contribute instead of complain. I did it. Plenty can. The rest? Maybe they picked the wrong country.