That’s a big kick in the ass to Poilievre who previously threatened him (or I guess had him threatened).
Losing an Alberta MP is also a terrible look.
planemissediknow on
It all comes down to Terrebonne then, right?
The Libs will win the by-elections in Freeland and Blair’s old seats, so if they win Terrabonne, with Jeneroux they have their majority?
Eskomo on
That Terrebonne by-election is going to be very interesting!
A majority government will be up for grabs via by-elections, once they are called.
EarthWarping on
So it was interesting today that Coyne wrote an opinion piece saying that the CPC establishment know Pierre is toast despite the rank and file in his own words, backing him.
He mentions a party with divides growing as he tries to balance both the far right and moderate sides and as long as the states administration are a threat to Canada, he falls in the polls.
The walls are closing in on Pierre it seems at this point, hence yesterdays shot across the bow to Jivani.
InfinityTubeSock on
I audibly gasped when I read this headline. This is worse than just a general floor crossing – this is a big middle finger to PP and his caucus. I really hope that Jeneroux plans to share more details about how it all went down.
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GeneralSerpent on
This strengthens Carney’s hand and once again weakens PP. I think this reinforces the notion that the cards were stacked in the leadership review.
As we see in the polling, Carney’s center rightward shift is being supported by the public and PP’s populism is being rejected.
As for the individual, Jeneroux is extremely dishonest and doesnt seem to hold any principles. He should’ve crossed the floor initially – that I could’ve understood. But to instead back out, then claim to be resigning then switch your mind again to cross the floor misled his constituents & the public.
RNTMA on
The real question is whether this is temporary and he still goes through with his resignation in Spring, or he rescinds that and stays until the next election.
Progressive_Worlds on
And yet, past reports rumoured that there are more floor-crossers in the chamber waiting for the right moment. This is quite the vice operation in politics if I’ve ever seen one; Not a Carney fanboy but this is impressive maneuvering for a neophyte in elected office.
fredovan on
Setting aside the issue about if the Liberals will have a majority or not. This has to be first time 3 MPs from one party crossed the floor to join another party.
mcurbanplan on
Everyone here talking about Terrebonne: The Bloc is going to win it. The result was invalidated because the Bloc actually won the 2025 election in that riding, and they haven’t really lost their popularity in that part of Quebec.
Logisch on
Not always a fan of seat crossing. If MP were more independent then you could argue they can best represent their constituents but everyone of them votes parties line.
People elect parties not MPs anymore.
To be on the nose this is more of a rant about the lose of independents voting intention within parties.
ref7187 on
My guess is that the Terrebonne byelection is going to be this year’s version of Toronto St Paul’s in 2024.
Unless another MP somehow crosses some voters might be motivated to come out simply not to give Carney a majority.
Also, will add that the threat of a spring election decreases either way. If they win Terrebonne, duh. If they lose it, the Liberals‘ opponents will say that the result in Terrebonne clearly shows that Canadians don’t want a Liberal majority.
Direct-Season-1180 on
This was entirely predictable when Pierre won the leadership review. Progressive Conservative MPs still don’t like him.
GonnaGoFar on
Conservative here. Don’t love this, would prefer Liberals kept to a minority. It is what it is though, I’ve mostly supported Carney’s policies, so it’s not the worst thing in the world.
But Jesus tap dancing Christ, can we get rid of PP already? Like so many obvious rejections of his leadership and style, and so many good opportunities to replace him. I sincerely hope this and a potential majority are enough to replace him with a grown-up.
PS. Keep an eye out for Ontario’s Doug Ford. Depending on how the CPC rebuild over the next couple of years, I could see him making a successful run for CPC leadership. A lot of people like the idea of a big, brazen bully to counter Trump.
GooeyPig on
[Called it](https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaPolitics/s/plldQe4hQm). The dust has settled and it’s clear that Poilievre is facing challenges from the right the moment he tries to moderate. Just as he’s got his social media sphere singing in tune against Jivani they rugpull him from the center. Excellent timing if the goal is to keep Poilievre off-balance and legacy media discussing his unsuitability as leader.
LeafsJays1Fan on
It’s funny Mark Carney is more right center Liberal than most would care to admit, some of his policies tend to be split between liberal and conservative ideas and it looks like some Middle Ground conservatives want to join that .
Fifty-Mission-Cap_ on
Will be interesting to see how his constituents respond after he told them he was actually resigning and not crossing the floor.
That’ll be his awkward conversation to have with his community when the election rolls around.
ChimoEngr on
I’m going from memory here, but wasn’t he expected to cross the floor around the same time as d’Entremont, but didn’t because of threats to him and his family?
I have to wonder what happened to those threats, because they were implied to be rather dire. Did they go away? Was the government able to promise enough protection that he felt safe in crossing? Does he think that those making the threats are no longer able to carry through?
Whatever happened to that ugly aspect of our current politics, the current government’s ability to shave away seats from the opposition is rather stunning.
Creative-Bread6319 on
To beat the old drum. His constituents should be mad as hell. Legislation should be introduced that if a MP want to cross the floor, it immediately initiates a by election in their riding.
It is never gonna happen but a guy has to dream.
Raptorpicklezz on
I do hope this means that there will be no spring election, because there is no way Jeneroux will win this seat back as a Liberal. Need to let him settle in (assuming he’s not resigning anymore)
jonlmbs on
Impossible for Poilievre to win any election. Just waiting for the inevitable election loss and his loss of leadership.
hardk7 on
With the LPC having opened a polling lead in the last two weeks, Carney getting positive headline after positive headline, and no signs of trouble for the Liberals, I can see another floor crosser or two materializing now. These byelections, save Terrebonne, are safe Liberal seats. If they get another floor crosser they won’t need Terrebonne (though they definitely have a good shot at it with their current opinion polling). If they get that majority there might be caucus knives out for Poilievre but he literally just got 87% support from the membership. So I think there’s a good chance the caucus continue to support him at least until a challenger properly starts organizing.
SmellybutKind on
Jamil Jivani’s trip to Washington and comments afterwards rubbed a lot of people in caucus the wrong way. Would not be surprised to see more defections in the next few weeks.
dontshootog on
Whether you consider this good news or bad news, from a political science perspective, a desire to “cross the floor” at any level should trigger a bi-election.
I find this increasing trend distressing even it advantages my beliefs. We already have a lack of robust and equitable democratic representation.
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That’s a big kick in the ass to Poilievre who previously threatened him (or I guess had him threatened).
Losing an Alberta MP is also a terrible look.
It all comes down to Terrebonne then, right?
The Libs will win the by-elections in Freeland and Blair’s old seats, so if they win Terrabonne, with Jeneroux they have their majority?
That Terrebonne by-election is going to be very interesting!
A majority government will be up for grabs via by-elections, once they are called.
So it was interesting today that Coyne wrote an opinion piece saying that the CPC establishment know Pierre is toast despite the rank and file in his own words, backing him.
He mentions a party with divides growing as he tries to balance both the far right and moderate sides and as long as the states administration are a threat to Canada, he falls in the polls.
The walls are closing in on Pierre it seems at this point, hence yesterdays shot across the bow to Jivani.
I audibly gasped when I read this headline. This is worse than just a general floor crossing – this is a big middle finger to PP and his caucus. I really hope that Jeneroux plans to share more details about how it all went down.
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This strengthens Carney’s hand and once again weakens PP. I think this reinforces the notion that the cards were stacked in the leadership review.
As we see in the polling, Carney’s center rightward shift is being supported by the public and PP’s populism is being rejected.
As for the individual, Jeneroux is extremely dishonest and doesnt seem to hold any principles. He should’ve crossed the floor initially – that I could’ve understood. But to instead back out, then claim to be resigning then switch your mind again to cross the floor misled his constituents & the public.
The real question is whether this is temporary and he still goes through with his resignation in Spring, or he rescinds that and stays until the next election.
And yet, past reports rumoured that there are more floor-crossers in the chamber waiting for the right moment. This is quite the vice operation in politics if I’ve ever seen one; Not a Carney fanboy but this is impressive maneuvering for a neophyte in elected office.
Setting aside the issue about if the Liberals will have a majority or not. This has to be first time 3 MPs from one party crossed the floor to join another party.
Everyone here talking about Terrebonne: The Bloc is going to win it. The result was invalidated because the Bloc actually won the 2025 election in that riding, and they haven’t really lost their popularity in that part of Quebec.
Not always a fan of seat crossing. If MP were more independent then you could argue they can best represent their constituents but everyone of them votes parties line.
People elect parties not MPs anymore.
To be on the nose this is more of a rant about the lose of independents voting intention within parties.
My guess is that the Terrebonne byelection is going to be this year’s version of Toronto St Paul’s in 2024.
Unless another MP somehow crosses some voters might be motivated to come out simply not to give Carney a majority.
Also, will add that the threat of a spring election decreases either way. If they win Terrebonne, duh. If they lose it, the Liberals‘ opponents will say that the result in Terrebonne clearly shows that Canadians don’t want a Liberal majority.
This was entirely predictable when Pierre won the leadership review. Progressive Conservative MPs still don’t like him.
Conservative here. Don’t love this, would prefer Liberals kept to a minority. It is what it is though, I’ve mostly supported Carney’s policies, so it’s not the worst thing in the world.
But Jesus tap dancing Christ, can we get rid of PP already? Like so many obvious rejections of his leadership and style, and so many good opportunities to replace him. I sincerely hope this and a potential majority are enough to replace him with a grown-up.
PS. Keep an eye out for Ontario’s Doug Ford. Depending on how the CPC rebuild over the next couple of years, I could see him making a successful run for CPC leadership. A lot of people like the idea of a big, brazen bully to counter Trump.
[Called it](https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaPolitics/s/plldQe4hQm). The dust has settled and it’s clear that Poilievre is facing challenges from the right the moment he tries to moderate. Just as he’s got his social media sphere singing in tune against Jivani they rugpull him from the center. Excellent timing if the goal is to keep Poilievre off-balance and legacy media discussing his unsuitability as leader.
It’s funny Mark Carney is more right center Liberal than most would care to admit, some of his policies tend to be split between liberal and conservative ideas and it looks like some Middle Ground conservatives want to join that .
Will be interesting to see how his constituents respond after he told them he was actually resigning and not crossing the floor.
That’ll be his awkward conversation to have with his community when the election rolls around.
I’m going from memory here, but wasn’t he expected to cross the floor around the same time as d’Entremont, but didn’t because of threats to him and his family?
I have to wonder what happened to those threats, because they were implied to be rather dire. Did they go away? Was the government able to promise enough protection that he felt safe in crossing? Does he think that those making the threats are no longer able to carry through?
Whatever happened to that ugly aspect of our current politics, the current government’s ability to shave away seats from the opposition is rather stunning.
To beat the old drum. His constituents should be mad as hell. Legislation should be introduced that if a MP want to cross the floor, it immediately initiates a by election in their riding.
It is never gonna happen but a guy has to dream.
I do hope this means that there will be no spring election, because there is no way Jeneroux will win this seat back as a Liberal. Need to let him settle in (assuming he’s not resigning anymore)
Impossible for Poilievre to win any election. Just waiting for the inevitable election loss and his loss of leadership.
With the LPC having opened a polling lead in the last two weeks, Carney getting positive headline after positive headline, and no signs of trouble for the Liberals, I can see another floor crosser or two materializing now. These byelections, save Terrebonne, are safe Liberal seats. If they get another floor crosser they won’t need Terrebonne (though they definitely have a good shot at it with their current opinion polling). If they get that majority there might be caucus knives out for Poilievre but he literally just got 87% support from the membership. So I think there’s a good chance the caucus continue to support him at least until a challenger properly starts organizing.
Jamil Jivani’s trip to Washington and comments afterwards rubbed a lot of people in caucus the wrong way. Would not be surprised to see more defections in the next few weeks.
Whether you consider this good news or bad news, from a political science perspective, a desire to “cross the floor” at any level should trigger a bi-election.
I find this increasing trend distressing even it advantages my beliefs. We already have a lack of robust and equitable democratic representation.