The OLP has to figure out how to speak to people outside of urban centers. Fighting highways in the 905 had them lose every seat the 413 is being built, and its simple the number one job in the 905 is in transportation. They also have to fight Ford on policy, not his character.
TheBannaMeister on
Ontario liberals have one path to victory
We get a conservative federal government, guaranteed to get a liberal provincial government
Snurgisdr on
Taking nearly two full years after the election just to pick a new leader does not exactly speak of a dynamic party that’s ready to take on the challenge of running a province.
RNTMA on
The party is well positioned for the next election, but they have some pretty severe internal issues. If NES wins, there will basically be an internal civil war as a lot of people in the party are still angry over him saying Crombie had to go. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some floor crossers or resignations, but the end result would likely be okay as you get rid of the Del Duca/Crombie clowns.
AprilsMostAmazing on
Here’s the thing OLP has a legit platform in 2022. Say whatever you want about SDD but he put a legit progressive platform, if either of ONDP or OLP had won in 2022 the province would be doing better from the service standpoint.
But despite that progressive platform, OLP choose to go OPC Lite in Bonnie.
I hope they make the right choice this time by picking NES
SomeDumRedditor on
The Ontario Liberals are opportunist snakes that have hid in the grass for the entirety of the Ford Conservative tenure. Because they’re the same big-money, media influencing, neolib bullshit peddlers as the Conservatives in a different tie and with different social politics to dangle in front of voters.
The OLP in its ongoing and infinite arrogance believe Ontario is a de-facto two-party system and, almost by divine right, all they need to do is wait it out.
They’re not the official opposition and because any Opposition success (even under a majority) could bleed voters, they do and say nothing as a party. Whether they have a leader or not has proven immaterial.
After their loss the last time I’ve seen zero evidence of a thorough house cleaning, a separation from money-interests or anything resembling a coherent plan that isn’t classic “bend with the wind” Liberal politics.
Ontarians are better off with the OLP staying “in the wilderness”; we’ve had plenty of time to see what they believe in / what they do when out of power. The answer is nothing, because it’s the most politically expedient move and they’re just waiting for “their turn.”
Throwawayhair66392 on
Not going to escape the wilderness as long as they keep making dumb ass decisions like allowing people on temp visas to vote in their leadership race.
If you are that bad at governing your own party, how can you govern Ontario?
Raptorpicklezz on
If their plan is anything other than “give Nate Erskine-Smith a fair shot” even if he loses on his own merit without any interference, then they will never exit the wilderness
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The OLP has to figure out how to speak to people outside of urban centers. Fighting highways in the 905 had them lose every seat the 413 is being built, and its simple the number one job in the 905 is in transportation. They also have to fight Ford on policy, not his character.
Ontario liberals have one path to victory
We get a conservative federal government, guaranteed to get a liberal provincial government
Taking nearly two full years after the election just to pick a new leader does not exactly speak of a dynamic party that’s ready to take on the challenge of running a province.
The party is well positioned for the next election, but they have some pretty severe internal issues. If NES wins, there will basically be an internal civil war as a lot of people in the party are still angry over him saying Crombie had to go. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some floor crossers or resignations, but the end result would likely be okay as you get rid of the Del Duca/Crombie clowns.
Here’s the thing OLP has a legit platform in 2022. Say whatever you want about SDD but he put a legit progressive platform, if either of ONDP or OLP had won in 2022 the province would be doing better from the service standpoint.
But despite that progressive platform, OLP choose to go OPC Lite in Bonnie.
I hope they make the right choice this time by picking NES
The Ontario Liberals are opportunist snakes that have hid in the grass for the entirety of the Ford Conservative tenure. Because they’re the same big-money, media influencing, neolib bullshit peddlers as the Conservatives in a different tie and with different social politics to dangle in front of voters.
The OLP in its ongoing and infinite arrogance believe Ontario is a de-facto two-party system and, almost by divine right, all they need to do is wait it out.
They’re not the official opposition and because any Opposition success (even under a majority) could bleed voters, they do and say nothing as a party. Whether they have a leader or not has proven immaterial.
After their loss the last time I’ve seen zero evidence of a thorough house cleaning, a separation from money-interests or anything resembling a coherent plan that isn’t classic “bend with the wind” Liberal politics.
Ontarians are better off with the OLP staying “in the wilderness”; we’ve had plenty of time to see what they believe in / what they do when out of power. The answer is nothing, because it’s the most politically expedient move and they’re just waiting for “their turn.”
Not going to escape the wilderness as long as they keep making dumb ass decisions like allowing people on temp visas to vote in their leadership race.
If you are that bad at governing your own party, how can you govern Ontario?
If their plan is anything other than “give Nate Erskine-Smith a fair shot” even if he loses on his own merit without any interference, then they will never exit the wilderness