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    Abschied von Atom-U-Booten: Australien hat einen 368-Milliarden-Dollar-Vertrag mit den Vereinigten Staaten unterzeichnet, um sie zu erhalten, aber ein neuer Kongressbericht macht deutlich, dass sie möglicherweise nie eintreffen werden

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    2. TCHProductions on

      Not mentioned in the article is that the deal for the Virginia class subs was made with no refund.

      Meaning the US could cancel this deal and keep all of what we already paid them.

      Pissed off France for backing out of a deal for their Diesel Submarines to go with the US only to not get anything but wasted tax dollars.

      We are building our own shipyard to make our own here to make the SSN AUKUS subs domestically but they won’t be ready until the 2040s

    3. Hndlbrrrrr on

      Just another day of this administration doing everything they can to fuck over our allies and tank America’s reputation. I imagine the billionaires are already laughing about how little they’ll have to spend for what’s left of our public infrastructure over the next 3 years.

    4. mamounia78 on

      This is exactly why Congress needs to fund shipbuilding capacity now, because strong alliances only work if America actually shows up

    7. Setekh79 on

      An unreliable ally in all aspects, even ‚ally‘ is questionable these days.

      The world needs to move away from American dependence.

    8. Happy_Little_Peas on

      So, uh… where did the money go? Whenever I see things like this I now assume Trump’s got some kind of profit scheme.

    9. MetalBawx on

      Alright since people are missing the important context i’ll go through it though i don’t remember the details.

      The main crux of Australia’s submarine problem is they need long range patrol capacity however noone really builds diesel subs for such a role anymore as the nations who want that capability have all switched to building nuclear powered submarines for obvious reasons.

      The French deal was basically the last gasp of politicians who didn’t want the expense of developing nuclear powered subs. So they go to France and put in an order for an existing design, one to be modified from nuclear to diesel power.

      Meanwhile the RAN see’s an opportunity to get it’s nuclear submarines and start testing the waters with the US and UK. The big point with this plan was that the reactors would be built by Rolls Royce for Austrailias next submarine. Political fighting goes down and Australia turns away from it’s existing deal. The sweetner for this being an offer from the US to loan some of it’s Virginia class to Australia while the development of their new subs is underway.

      Then Trump comes long and shits the bed pulling out of the sub loan agreement.

      The rest of the deal with the United Kingdom is still underway, technology transfers and training for RAN crews and of course the submarine spec reactor units.

      I’m probably missing some things as this is all of the top of my head so feel free to correct me.

    10. ThaFresh on

      its just paying a huge bribe to be left alone, we have plenty of resources ppl would like

    11. fishtankm29 on

      So the article (that’s essentially a repost from a few weeks ago) just says that in the terms of the deal the US can delay indefinitely the delivery if the US Navy says they need them instead. That was always part of the deal. Since the beginning.

      The article ends by saying the US still plans to deliver them to Australia.

      It pays to read past the headlines.

    13. ThankuConan on

      Always interesting to see what small details get overlooked when making a deal with the Americans. Better luck on the negotiations next time; you might get some subs some day. BTW France called to ask how things are going.

    14. gregkiel on

      What a trash article. All oversight reports must address all alternatives for procurement – to include the cost of not fulfilling the contract. Believe it or not, this is true for every acquisition that falls within the scope of congressional oversight. This article is written by someone with absolutely zero knowledge of government funding.

    15. dweeegs on

      Shit hole website I’ve never heard of riddled with ads to the point where I can’t even navigate it on mobile

      Think tank asked to come up with different scenarios came up with different scenarios. Nothing actually happened. More news at 11

    16. Whiteyak5 on

      This reads as one big nuclear hit piece.

      But, Australia is getting more than just 3 Virginia class subs out of this deal. They’re already getting training on how to operate and repair SSNs as well as technology transfer for nuclear subs.

      It’d still be incredibly shitty if the US doesn’t deliver Virginia boats, but hardly the end of the world in the grand scheme of the deal.

      The US is without a doubt the top tier designer and builder of nuclear subs. Looks no further than the UKs own Astute class to see that, ended up calling in help from the US to assist in straightening the program out and even had a General Dynamics employee become the director of the project for awhile.

    17. DaveyGee16 on

      Still.. The subs themselves have little use or sense…

      Australia needs sub to do what? Protect its trade routes since it’s an island.

      Protect its trade routes from who? China.

      Where does Australian trade go to and where does it come from? *crickets*

    20. ataboo on

      All the predatory enshitifiers are probably not enjoying that he’s breaking the blind trust in American weapons. Even if they hold to the agreement and deliver the subs, I’m sure the same licensing bs that kept them from fixing The Ford’s ovens apply to Submarine as a Service. If they’re willing to extort allies on a whim, you want every line of code and every piece of hardware under your full control, and I don’t think that’s an option.

      I could see this spilling over when people realize he could threaten to put any American product or service under export controls on a whim.

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