Washington wehrt sich gegen das Streben der EU nach Technologieautonomie
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-bid-for-tech-autonomy-washington-us-pushes-back/
Von Crossstoney
Washington wehrt sich gegen das Streben der EU nach Technologieautonomie
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-bid-for-tech-autonomy-washington-us-pushes-back/
Von Crossstoney
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Mhm. And the US Cloud Act is nothing, sure.
You know what? We are gonna start getting independent even harder!
If they complain you know you are on the right track
Europe can worry about two oppressive superpowers at once though.
So, absolutely the EU is doing the right thing.
> “Personal data doesn’t get piped to the state in the United States,”
I’m pretty sure it does.
Washington can s*ck my big fat European c*ck! Europe needs to gain full technological autonomy, Europe needs to protect its food autonomy, Europe needs to expand its military autonomy. The USA has proven itself to be an unstable and dare i say politically hostile international actor.
bees against the honey
It’s not a false equivalency, it’s a false dichotomy. Both should be replaced by homegrown, secure alternatives.
US – Europe should do more and spend more to defend itself , without America you are nothing.
Europe – Okay , we will start investing in domestic defence and tech sector to boost self reliance.
US – How dare you !!!!!
First thing we should do is get away from visa/mastercard even faster.
Then work to get away from any US big tech and stop Palantir from getting contracts here.
8 comments in under 5 mins. And all have a single downvote. Some soggy MAGA is on his 5th beer of the day doing the work huh
>Suggesting US tech is as risky as Chinese tech is ‘a giant false equivalency,’ top US cyber official says.
He’s right – US literally threatened to annex Greenland, which instead puts them in the realm of Russia.
At least China is only attacking Europe by proxy 🤷♂️
*Husband pushes back against wife’s push for divorce*
It’s not up to you anymore.
OK, let me try giving a serious answer here:
History tells us:
The snowden files showed the NSA forced backdoors in to cisco routers sent to outside of the US.
the CLOUD act gives the american government access to any data hosted by american companies anwhere in the world .
project echelon intercepted bid details from airbus, and the us government shared this data with boeing and mcdonnal douglas to win the 6 billion bid.
SO please, based on this information, what reason would europeans have, to trust the US government? In all fairness, the US tries to blame China for similar practises, while they’re the ones which are actually cought doing so. If anything, you could argue China is being more honest in their action than the USA, especially since the orange geriatric baboon is in power.
Remember, american redditors: you’re judged on your actions, not your words.
Lol what ? Go fuck yourself Washington.
I think they are trying to play the card ‘better the devil you know’, however Trump’s recent actions show that the devil we know is just evil and should be avoided at all cost.
„Pushes back“?! If US thinks that comparing US tech with Chinese tech is ‘a giant false equivalency’ then it is time for USA to give guarantees that they will ***never refuse*** to deliver electronics to EU under any conditions at all, and that they give guarantees that they will ***never*** ***invade*** Greenland. I will want Trump, JD Vance and Mike Johnson to literally beg Europe for forgiveness on their bare knees. [Literally](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/literally), word for word. I wish an explicit ceremony, and then I will accept the apology. Marco Rubio is not enough.
So, just FYI, anyone: Today NYT reported that US Homeland Security has sent Google, Meta and other companies (like Reddit) hundreds of subpoenas for information on accounts that track or comment on Immigration and Customs Enforcement. It is already clear, where this is going.
American Tech can’t guarantee any independence from US admin, anymore. Europe should really hurry, to drop any tech, that is pushing data of European citizens and businesses to some cloud. And most importantly no fucking Palantir used by European authorities.
„We want America first, but we don’t want ‚America alone‘.“
Which is their way of saying „we want our security but for someone else to help pay for it“.
The US claim to want a partnership, which would be fine if they didn’t demand that „all“ development were to be done by the US and embed backdoors and kill-switches iinto just about everything they sell to the world.
Personally, I would prefer if EU/US/China simply agreed on standards and made their own stuff.
If the EU made their own equivalent and simply kept doing security tests on said equipment, then they’d have less of a reason to depend on the US.
Also, considering that trade-agreements or sanctions against european citizens can come down to whether the tantrum-tyrant has filled his „Depends'(adult diapers) does not put much confidence in ANY partnership with the US.
Please, more Independence from USA! I’ve been saying this since way before 2016 that America farts Europe runs to smell the cloud, and pretend it is perfume. I hope our individual country leaders and EU representatives become less meek and submissive.
US can f right off. Europe is a continent of educated societies, not idiots. We have trusted US as an ally. Now it’s clear that we shouldn’t and couldn’t anymore and thus we take measures accordingly. Trying to convince Europe to share our data via US based technology will not fly anymore.
Trump “is putting America first, and the same goes in cyberspace,” Cairncross said. But, he added, “we don’t want it to be America alone. We want that partnership.”
Oh *now* they want a partnership lol
Stay strong EU, the US needs to be checked
Software and services related makes up almost a quarter of the entire USA export economy!!!!
Yah they will be missed.imagine losing a quarter of all exports, oh wait thats what the USA did to Europe and Canada with tariffs.
Moved to Linux, before it was cool, you should too. Its cool now lol.
What we are seeing is the European Union trying to stop being a „customer“ and become an independent „player.“ Washington is pushing against this because the EU’s technological autonomy (control over its own chips, data, and artificial intelligence) threatens the dominance of large American companies (Google, Microsoft, Apple).
I hope that when all this shit ends, americans will have to learn how to live within their own means, without the rest of the world pouring money into their economy.
One thing is now pretty clear: the US is the leech of the world. It has to end.
„You suck, are weak and can’t do anything on your own!“
_Proceeds to do stuff on their own_
„… wait what no come back.“
The US is like the stereotype abusive partner and it is time to leave that toxic relationship.
„be more independent“ „wait, no not that way!“
>Claiming that U.S. tech is as risky as Chinese tech is “a giant false equivalency,” according to Cairncross. “Personal data doesn’t get piped to the state in the United States,” he said, referencing concerns that the Beijing government has laws requiring firms to hand over data for Chinese surveillance and espionage purposes.
I dont think there are many people trusting China with data, but this is a bit on the nose.
>The CLOUD Act allows U.S. authorities to access data stored in the EU, putting it in direct conflict with GDPR
https://wire.com/en/blog/cloud-act-eu-data-sovereignty
>Microsoft has admitted that it can’t protect EU data from U.S. snooping.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2025/07/22/microsoft-cant-keep-eu-data-safe-from-us-authorities/
Microsoft’s ICC email block triggers Dutch concerns over dependence on U.S. tech
https://nltimes.nl/2025/05/20/microsofts-icc-email-block-triggers-dutch-concerns-dependence-us-tech
They are slowly learning that the second word is ‚Union‘
„It’s China you should worry about, not us.“ Yeah, right
They invite us to leave, and when we are heading to the exit, thry realize that they begefitted significantly from having ys there. I say, we must leave and have some suffering now, instead of stay and be vassals.
They should have started sanctions against US tech and cut all internet access to US companies and sites a year ago. Appeasing Hitler didn’t work out too well did it? People never learn.
Europe doesn’t need the so called United States. You cannot rely on a country that’s ruled by a fickle old pervert who changes his mind every 5 minutes!
Because they were so please Rubio said, we don’t want to lose the trans atlantic trade, they all acted like an abused wife believing their abuser saying, but honey I love you, I promise I won’t do it again. Especially after he makes the same kind of speech Vance made last year before, and more shit of the same after. Essentially saying, „I’ll kill you if you get another boyfriend.“
The EU needs to actually listen to the words of PM Mark Carney at Davos and actually be a Union, in action not just name. Stop petty national attempts at dominant trade agreements with the USA and actually become a union. Then instead of having to kowtow to the USA, you can reverse the roles. And these three closet Quislings against the EU are not the ones to do it. They keep fighting to see who kisses Trump’s ring, first. Well, Merz also likes to bend over for Putin (remember he’s the one who would have been happy just sending helmets if he wasn’t forced otherwise).
I think these guys will cave in with respect to digital sovereignty for the EU. And yes I know Starmer is PM of the UK who aren’t in the UK, but the EU is the UK’s biggest trading partner. And he keeps seeming to lose the plot. Just look at the state of affairs there; they elected a moron into a majority government. And the alternatives are orders of magnitude worse.
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