In einem Blindtest konnten Audiophile keinen Unterschied zwischen Audiosignalen erkennen, die durch Kupferdraht, eine Banane oder nassen Schlamm gesendet wurden

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    1. RIP the bozos who buy cable „risers“ (literally just a cheap thing that holds the cable up from the floor to prevent „RF noise“, just checked and Best Buy sells them for $150).

      Audiophiles are genuinely deranged.

    2. waves are waves are waves. Definitely wouldn’t have expected mud to meet an eye diagram spec, but I guess mud is basically just saltwater.

    3. me_not_at_work on

      I remember an experiment that was done a number of years ago when this whole „premium“ cables crap started with Monster and other scammy companies.

      They set up a great audio system and gave people a switch that was supposed to switch the audio between the „superior“ Monster cables and regular copper. They then brought in a bunch of „audiophiles“ and let them play around. The ones who were in the „expensive cables matter“ crowd absolutely swore that they could hear the difference when they switched the toggle and that the difference was dramatic. I’m sure most of you have guessed that the toggle didn’t do a damn thing.

    4. This is a weird test. The reason to use a better wire is size, distance, and interference.

      Lower conductivity wires will lose some volume and have trouble if you’re running them to the back of the room and powering larger speakers.

      Wires don’t need to be anything special, just correctly matched to the speakers. I guarantee that you’d hear a difference after going through 200 bananas compared to one copper wire of equal length.

    5. Is it a blessing or a curse if one can’t tell the difference between low and high end audio systems?

    6. This is the same shit as „vinyl actually sounds better“ and „lossless actually sounds better“, no?

    7. When I read this I thought I saw “slug”. Maybe my mind saw “banana” and immediately went to “Banana Slug”. Anyway, I got really mad and frustrated at the idea that a poor banana slug had to listen to Creed on the behalf of an audiophile. But that’s not what happened, and I don’t know what to do with all these emotions.

    8. paulsteinway on

      If the electrical signal gets through, and the resistance doesn’t vary, it will sound fine.

    9. APGaming_reddit on

      The idea is that people who are that invested in audio don’t care that a $10 cable sounds like a $100 cable. Sometimes they just want something they think is cool and have the money for it. It’s just like any other hobby

    10. Extreme_Tip_3859 on

      I feel like this title implies that they all sounded the same, but the article just said readers couldn’t tell you which one went through pennies vs mud vs banana, which like yeah… no shit. Why would they know what a current sent through a banana should sound like?

    11. Another_Slut_Dragon on

      Want to know if your audio wiring is sufficient? Get a voltmeter with a min-max function and use AC volts.

      The rule of thumb is no more than 3% loss down your wiring. So make a + to – measurement on the speaker, use AC volts and set the meter to max. Let’s say you peak at 20 volts. Now reset the max function and measure + to + down the length of the cable and play the stereo as loud as you would play it.

      20 * 0.03 = 0.6v. If you see more than 0.6v, that is a scientific measurement that you aren’t getting full power to your speakers.

      Beyond that, cheap wire is fine. But avoid aluminum wire at all costs. It is failure and corrosion prone. It is ok to use a long jumper wire with your voltmeter to measure + to +. Because very little current is flowing down that wire it will be accurate.

      Voltage sag won’t come into play at low volumes. But you absolutely get a little more punch out of the speakers at high volumes.

    12. Nintendo1964 on

      I’ve never liked the term *“audiophile“*. It’s almost insinuating that you’re attracted, like sexually, to audio equipment. It sounds… bad.

    13. BoomersRuinedItAll on

      I actually worked for Noel Lee at monster in 2011-2012 just after they got bent over by Jimmy Iovine and Dre’s all star team of lawyers. The separation of Monster and Beats is a great story.

      He claimed to have perfect pitch and tune identification. His engineers would bring in headphones for him to test because he insisted on being the final say for everything at the company.

      He would sit there and listen to a song through some ridiculously thick 3.5mm audio cable at his desk plugged into some insanely expensive MP3 player that had analog and digital DACs with so many knobs.

      He would reject engineering samples saying they needed to adjust certain frequencies only he could hear. They would leave his office. Go have a cigarette, change a face plate or an ear cup, then have another cigarette, chit chat, then bring him the exact same headphone again.

      He’d test it again and then say it was closer but to adjust the signal this way or that way. But they don’t change anything when they leave his office. They know he can’t hear the individual frequencies at the levels he says he can, no human can. He thinks he can hear an extended range like how a dog smells cinnamon, flower, milk, eggs etc where humans would smell apple pie. But he’s the Founder and owner so they humor him by parading in and out at all hours while he lords over the team from his oversized oak desk surrounded by gadgets and segways.

      I’ll never forget this one night before we were all set to fly out for N.A.A.M the next morning in Anaheim. The entire headphone engineering team was sitting in his office while he listened to the Monster Genesis headphones again for the thousandth time. They were supposed to be this ultra premium set of cans which never launched. He had his EA record all of these meetings at all times. He was obsessed.

      I remember once he was arguing with his EA about something and he said “No, I never said that, I said this… Play the recording” so she does. Turns out he’s wrong, we can all **clearly** hear him say the thing the EA said he did but even after the recording proves him wrong he says. “That’s not the right one find the right one or just do what I say!” Then he’d fire them.

      I think he went through like 5 EAs in a 4 month period once?

      He’d lay off 20 people then parade the rest of the company into the warehouse in Brisbane (CA) to show off a new addition to his collection of 70+ exotic cars.

      The narcissism was on full display.

      His son Kevin is a truly decent person though and a down to earth kind of guy I really enjoyed getting to work with.

    14. > I know *I* would be able to tell the difference.

      Every self-proclaimed audiophile I’ve ever met if they were made to read this article.

    15. What happened to directional cables? Now we need to flow the mud in one direction too?

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