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    Ein Zivilist filmt, wie eine ukrainische F-16 ein russisches UAV mit einer AIM-120 AMRAAM-Rakete abschießt, nachdem bereits alle AIM-9 Sidewinder eingesetzt wurden.

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    3. RedditWB12 on

      So, why are the sidewinders missing, they ain’t cheap, and how do we improve the kill ratio and cost per kill?

    4. ediewz on

      serious question, why doesn’t the EU start producing some low cost missles? i saw that the the US already has a solution for that and it’s been tested with the F-15 that can basically carry 42 low cost missles (each one of them is like 30k)

      edit: thanks for the insight everyone. since the current US admin unfortunately doesn’t really support Ukraine unless the EU buys their stuff then the EU should at least buy some APKWS and apparently it’s been tested with the F 16

    5. Bismarck381mm on

      20 000 APKWS rockets were send to Israel last year, which should end up in Ukraine.

      Spending AMRAAMS against 30-50k target is just unsustainable.

      Plss, send some here. This is hurting UA economy and also combat capabilities ( after spending all 6 AAMs ) too much.

      Thank you.

    7. Gnaeus-Naevius on

      This is not ideal, but a decision needs to be made. A wrecked thermal plant will cost far more to repair than an AMRAAM, … but that assumes that no other defenses are available.

      Anyhow, the missile is what, $1.5-$2 million dollars each? That would pay for as many as 400 interceptor drones.

      But what about fast prop aircraft? A Diamond DA50 RG can be had for about is $1.2M, and then converted to a remote operated drone by a silicon valley type defense contractor, maybe $2 million turnkey with a 7.62 minigun mounted on a gimbal. It would knock Shaheeds out of the sky with abandon.

      Such aircraft could also get in position and release interceptor drones. This can be made cheaper, or faster or more powerful by cutting out much of the battery since they start 1,000 meters or less behind the drone and don’t have to climb.

      If going a bit cheaper and settling for the Sling TSi, it can be converted to a turnkey autonomous solution for $750k or so.

      So it would have the following:
      Garmin glass cockpit, COTS processors (NVIDIA Orin/Jetson), fly-by-wire via industrial high-torque servos, 77GHz AESA Radar, thermal FLIR targeting camera, M134 Minigun, 2-axis stabilized gimbal mount, recoil mitigation.

      If my calculations are correct, one missile would pay for three such aircraft. Given that no human lives (on board) are at stake, it can take more risks to get a quicker shootdown.

    9. Hairy-Bluejay-8833 on

      SLAVA UKRAINI!

      Well done, sláva Ukraíni! Heroyam Slava! 🇺🇦🇨🇭🇺🇦🇨🇭🇺🇦

    10. smoke-frog on

      Not very good move. Countries that donate expensive and specialized munitions like this will not want to see them used like that. May have saved one civilian today, but killed hundreds tomorrow.

    11. PlzTouchMeN0w on

      I dont understand why they dont load these jets out with like 4 pods of the APKWS missiles, they are cheaper then sidewinders and aim120s and you got 7 missiles to a pod and they can shoot down eveything the big boy missiles can shoot down. Leave sidewinders on the wing tips and just run as many APKWS pods as you can.

    12. BeenisHat on

      I’m wondering if the AIM-9s Ukraine is using just aren’t picking up the relatively small heat signatures of the Russian drones. Especially if they’re the piston engined Shaheds.

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