[The Guardian reports](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/food-firms-urge-europe-not-000129447.html): Companies including Linda McCarney Foods, Quorn and THIS have signed a joint letter calling on commissioners to “let common sense prevail” ahead of a debate on the proposed ban, which they say would cause “unnecessary confusion” for customers “without helping anyone”.
A ban would mean, for example, bean burgers sold in Europe having to be relabelled as “patties” or “discs”, while the Welsh breakfast staple Glamorgan sausages – made of cheese and leeks – would probably become Glamorgan “tubes”.
Oswarez on
People getting offended by food they don’t consume is so weird to me.
TegenaireEnPelote on
A sausage is a sausage. The meat industry doesn’t own words and doesn’t get to decide how they are used
DejourPeach on
If you are too dumb to distinguish a meat sausage from a vegetarian one, you shouldn’t be allowed to shop for food without adult supervision.
Pleiadez on
The definition of a sausage is a round thing you bake and eat. It isnt associated with a particular ingredient but i guess some people believe differently. Its like you could have a extremely processed meat sausage or a artisan organic meat butcher sausage. They clearly arent the same thing right? But we both call it sausage.
_fafer on
Come to think of it, this would also affect Erbswurst.
I’m not a fan of mislabeled products, where the package is just missing a letter, etc. In Germany, I once bought a „Tunfisch Wrap“ and was mildly surprised by the consistency. I survived. But burger or sausage, are shapes or methods of preparation, these terms don’t signify ingredients to me.
apxseemax on
The award for the worst thread title of the day goes to:
You
TeamPach on
Does that mean the German „blutwurst“ (blood sausage) must be renamed as well ?
xbikester on
The whole burger ban is so fucking dumb. Burger is a shape not ingredient sausage is a shape not ingredient.
NatseePunksFeckOff on
If vegan plant-meat was cheaper and more common, I’d go vegetarian 100%. I’m a meat eater, but these plant meats are fucking amazing (most of the time) these days. Burger patties usually suck IMO tho
HeinHangbuikzwijn on
There are like a thousand solutions where you can make clear it’s not meat while keeping terms like sausage/burger/etc.
quitaskingmetomakean on
There are several good bits from Yes, Minister that come to mind.
In the last ten to twenty years it was always right-wing parties that warned of left-wing parties regulating speech. But they never did pass any laws for this. And now a majority of right-leaning parties are actually trying to push this through. Was it always just projection?
lichtblaufuchs on
If people aren’t drinking baking soda, they’re not mistaking plant based products for meat (and if they did, that would be a positive effect)
schw0b on
Blood sausage doesn’t have meat in it, either. How embarrassing.
Professional_Gene_63 on
The lobby is so strong in this one, represents the Europe we do not want to identify with. Protecting meat producers, one of the least wholesome industries at all ( and I’m not a vegetarian ).
AnnualAdeptness5630 on
Well, it will probably end up in naming products sausage-like or sausage-shaped which will be just as stupid as the „proposition of serving“. Why do we have to lower standards to stupid people?
PrincessRea on
Nice vested interest you got there in the meat industry. Surely you want that to upkeep food quality and not to stifle veggie-based alternatives, right?
Tman11S on
In all fairness, does anyone really know exactly what they’re eating when eating a sausage?
TheStruttero on
To me, „sausage“ is a form, a cylindrical food product comprised of a skin and content, if that skin is made from intestines or a non-animalistic substitute (or I guess no skin at all) and if the contents are based on pork, beef, Mushroom or something else shouldnt really matter imo
Its like saying you cant name a vegetarian alternative for meatballs „vegoballs“, as if the word balls in a culinary sense is dedicated to meat products
The same goes for Burger/patty
Or schnitzel
Or rolls
In Sweden, a turd is called „bajskorv“ which translates to „shit sausage“. Its just really really weird to try to protect the word sausage
Mean_disclosure_69 on
i always thought sausage is a shape
and now some levity:
Europe now bans Dackel from being called Sausage dogs.
And that other Sausage you make? Cant call it that.
The forrestry union is already vying to register „log“ too.
zauraz on
Its just so moronic. Sausages are not devalued, nor are they necessarily only pork. This is just stupid lobbying.
Will297 on
I mean there’s pork sausages, chicken sausages, turkey sausages, usually written on the packet. I don’t get why just putting something like veggie sausages is so bad, it’s a sausage, with veggie stuff in it
Ozryela on
This kind of obvious and open corruption – where an industry can just bribe the EU into passing absurd legislation whose only purpose is to bully the competition – is so frustrating to have to watch. We as Europeans really need to find a way to stop this kind of corruption. Because if we don’t we’ll inevitably end up as a second USA, where billionaires control everything.
bob_nugget_the_3rd on
Tbf there’s maat sausages that I’ve questioned if there meatbin it, but I’ve never been confused by ‚huurr that cylindrical shaped food, it must be made of meat because I’m allergic to vegetables and would feel conned if I eat it‘
PinkestMango on
Why do people care about this? A sausage is a shape. Why would a vegan sausage not be sausage or plant milk a milk?
Actual-Morning110 on
I just love Europe, fk corporates and their gimmicks.
hamatehllama on
I see no problem with veggie sausages. I always read the contents anyway to check if there are any spices I don’t like or what the meat content is in the product. Most people associate sausage with the shape, not with meat. Here in Sweden we have plenty of non-meat sausages including plastic „sausages“ filled with porridge.
This lobbying campaign is silly. We need common definitions in the union but the process of establishing standards risk being hijacked by special interests trying to tilt food standards in their favour.
drLoveF on
At least in Sweden, a sausage (korv) is a shape as well as a food item. No one would think to eat my sleeping bag even if I rolled into a sausage.
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[The Guardian reports](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/food-firms-urge-europe-not-000129447.html): Companies including Linda McCarney Foods, Quorn and THIS have signed a joint letter calling on commissioners to “let common sense prevail” ahead of a debate on the proposed ban, which they say would cause “unnecessary confusion” for customers “without helping anyone”.
A ban would mean, for example, bean burgers sold in Europe having to be relabelled as “patties” or “discs”, while the Welsh breakfast staple Glamorgan sausages – made of cheese and leeks – would probably become Glamorgan “tubes”.
People getting offended by food they don’t consume is so weird to me.
A sausage is a sausage. The meat industry doesn’t own words and doesn’t get to decide how they are used
If you are too dumb to distinguish a meat sausage from a vegetarian one, you shouldn’t be allowed to shop for food without adult supervision.
The definition of a sausage is a round thing you bake and eat. It isnt associated with a particular ingredient but i guess some people believe differently. Its like you could have a extremely processed meat sausage or a artisan organic meat butcher sausage. They clearly arent the same thing right? But we both call it sausage.
Come to think of it, this would also affect Erbswurst.
I’m not a fan of mislabeled products, where the package is just missing a letter, etc. In Germany, I once bought a „Tunfisch Wrap“ and was mildly surprised by the consistency. I survived. But burger or sausage, are shapes or methods of preparation, these terms don’t signify ingredients to me.
The award for the worst thread title of the day goes to:
You
Does that mean the German „blutwurst“ (blood sausage) must be renamed as well ?
The whole burger ban is so fucking dumb. Burger is a shape not ingredient sausage is a shape not ingredient.
If vegan plant-meat was cheaper and more common, I’d go vegetarian 100%. I’m a meat eater, but these plant meats are fucking amazing (most of the time) these days. Burger patties usually suck IMO tho
There are like a thousand solutions where you can make clear it’s not meat while keeping terms like sausage/burger/etc.
There are several good bits from Yes, Minister that come to mind.
https://youtu.be/sPwQ0PmK9lw?si=xmMHChxjRpDE63tq
https://youtu.be/m4OaWee8bxs?si=AenA2JteuqkFIlXY
I hope they succeed.
In the last ten to twenty years it was always right-wing parties that warned of left-wing parties regulating speech. But they never did pass any laws for this. And now a majority of right-leaning parties are actually trying to push this through. Was it always just projection?
If people aren’t drinking baking soda, they’re not mistaking plant based products for meat (and if they did, that would be a positive effect)
Blood sausage doesn’t have meat in it, either. How embarrassing.
The lobby is so strong in this one, represents the Europe we do not want to identify with. Protecting meat producers, one of the least wholesome industries at all ( and I’m not a vegetarian ).
Well, it will probably end up in naming products sausage-like or sausage-shaped which will be just as stupid as the „proposition of serving“. Why do we have to lower standards to stupid people?
Nice vested interest you got there in the meat industry. Surely you want that to upkeep food quality and not to stifle veggie-based alternatives, right?
In all fairness, does anyone really know exactly what they’re eating when eating a sausage?
To me, „sausage“ is a form, a cylindrical food product comprised of a skin and content, if that skin is made from intestines or a non-animalistic substitute (or I guess no skin at all) and if the contents are based on pork, beef, Mushroom or something else shouldnt really matter imo
Its like saying you cant name a vegetarian alternative for meatballs „vegoballs“, as if the word balls in a culinary sense is dedicated to meat products
The same goes for Burger/patty
Or schnitzel
Or rolls
In Sweden, a turd is called „bajskorv“ which translates to „shit sausage“. Its just really really weird to try to protect the word sausage
i always thought sausage is a shape
and now some levity:
Europe now bans Dackel from being called Sausage dogs.
And that other Sausage you make? Cant call it that.
The forrestry union is already vying to register „log“ too.
Its just so moronic. Sausages are not devalued, nor are they necessarily only pork. This is just stupid lobbying.
I mean there’s pork sausages, chicken sausages, turkey sausages, usually written on the packet. I don’t get why just putting something like veggie sausages is so bad, it’s a sausage, with veggie stuff in it
This kind of obvious and open corruption – where an industry can just bribe the EU into passing absurd legislation whose only purpose is to bully the competition – is so frustrating to have to watch. We as Europeans really need to find a way to stop this kind of corruption. Because if we don’t we’ll inevitably end up as a second USA, where billionaires control everything.
Tbf there’s maat sausages that I’ve questioned if there meatbin it, but I’ve never been confused by ‚huurr that cylindrical shaped food, it must be made of meat because I’m allergic to vegetables and would feel conned if I eat it‘
Why do people care about this? A sausage is a shape. Why would a vegan sausage not be sausage or plant milk a milk?
I just love Europe, fk corporates and their gimmicks.
I see no problem with veggie sausages. I always read the contents anyway to check if there are any spices I don’t like or what the meat content is in the product. Most people associate sausage with the shape, not with meat. Here in Sweden we have plenty of non-meat sausages including plastic „sausages“ filled with porridge.
This lobbying campaign is silly. We need common definitions in the union but the process of establishing standards risk being hijacked by special interests trying to tilt food standards in their favour.
At least in Sweden, a sausage (korv) is a shape as well as a food item. No one would think to eat my sleeping bag even if I rolled into a sausage.