Karte mit nationalsozialistischen deutschen Plänen aus dem Jahr 1938, die Konrad Henlein während der Sudetenkrise als Teil eines Ermutigungsprozesses vorgelegt hatte. Sie machten buchstäblich ihren gesamten Plan ein Jahr vor Kriegsbeginn öffentlich, doch niemand bemerkte es.
Das Karte ist ein erneut veröffentlichtes Bild einer Propaganda-Handreichung in der britischen sozialistischen Zeitung Täglicher Arbeiter (die Zeitung der Kommunistischen Partei) am 29. Oktober 1938.
Interesting swastika design. Haven’t seen that one before.
Kantina on
What about Greenland and Venezuela?
Stannis44 on
germans still dream about these espcesially the russian threat is rose again.
Facensearo on
>They literally made their entire plan public a year before war started yet nobody noticed.
>This map is re-published image of propaganda handout in the British socialist newspaper
Under „they“ you mean British socialists?
Ephelduin on
Hitler literally made his plans public in his book „Mein Kampf“ in 1925. Granted, not many people read it or deemed it relevant back then, but from when he gained power in 1933 onwards, translations were circulating internationally and global leaders had every chance to see everything coming.
In the 1930s there were arguments about how you should take them seriously, but not literally.
When someone tells you what they are, believe them.
confidentlyfish on
Poland refused to allow USSR help Czechoslovakia. The West wasn’t interested in stopping nazis then.
Street_Top3205 on
Oh, people DID notice. They just either didn’t give a shit about it, or a lot of those reports have been lost.
Much a like to what were announced as either Gulf of America, 52nd state of the US of A or Greenland and Venezuela.
Lothronion on
There is a hilarious aspect about this map. That is that already in 1938 the British propaganda mapmaker, unwittingly or not, made such a diagnosis of geopolitical affairs, that they predicted part of the ensuing war. That being the Inter-Axis German-Italian struggle over control of the Balkans, which the Italians saw as part of their agreed sphere of influence, the Mediterranean Sea, while the Germans viewed as part of Continental Europe and necessary for the invasion and later maintenance of Eastern Europe. Places shown here as German were desired by the Italians, such as Yugoslavia, Bulgaria and especially the Straits of the Dardanelles and Bosphorus. A curiosity however is that they did not consider how while Greece did have a large faction of Pro-Germans (which formed the basis of the Pro-German Greek Dictatorship of 1941-1944) it had no Pro-Italians at all, yet it shows Greece under the Italian sphere of influence (or outright annexation).
Despite how it is often implied that the Italian invasion of Greece was a mere glory-chasing insanity of Benito Mussolini, this is the real cause of the Greco-Italian War, after the Italians panicked over German infiltration of Romania and Bulgarian politics, and their attempts to do the same in Yugoslavia. Which had the known effects that it did for the war, contributing even further to the over-extension of the Axis forces (both Italian and German), by introducing an entire new theatre into it.
woodzopwns on
Noticed or took seriously ? British leaders were quite confident that appeasement and threats would work
-imivan- on
they did know they just didn’t give a fuck, before he went goblin mode
Skender_92 on
Same as Israel now
d_T_73 on
well, if it was in such quality, they probably couldn’t understand a thing
BarryEganHawaii on
It’s not that „no one noticed“. It’s like with Project 2025: most people said „yeah but they won’t do that, calm down.“ Mad despot shit can be hard for a lot of people to take seriously when they want to believe the world is a rational, sensible place.
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Interesting swastika design. Haven’t seen that one before.
What about Greenland and Venezuela?
germans still dream about these espcesially the russian threat is rose again.
>They literally made their entire plan public a year before war started yet nobody noticed.
>This map is re-published image of propaganda handout in the British socialist newspaper
Under „they“ you mean British socialists?
Hitler literally made his plans public in his book „Mein Kampf“ in 1925. Granted, not many people read it or deemed it relevant back then, but from when he gained power in 1933 onwards, translations were circulating internationally and global leaders had every chance to see everything coming.
[Netanyahu says he’s on a ‘historic and spiritual mission,’ also feels a connection to vision of Greater Israel.](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-says-hes-on-a-historic-and-spiritual-mission-endorses-vision-of-greater-israel/)
History vs contemporary reporting.
In the 1930s there were arguments about how you should take them seriously, but not literally.
When someone tells you what they are, believe them.
Poland refused to allow USSR help Czechoslovakia. The West wasn’t interested in stopping nazis then.
Oh, people DID notice. They just either didn’t give a shit about it, or a lot of those reports have been lost.
Much a like to what were announced as either Gulf of America, 52nd state of the US of A or Greenland and Venezuela.
There is a hilarious aspect about this map. That is that already in 1938 the British propaganda mapmaker, unwittingly or not, made such a diagnosis of geopolitical affairs, that they predicted part of the ensuing war. That being the Inter-Axis German-Italian struggle over control of the Balkans, which the Italians saw as part of their agreed sphere of influence, the Mediterranean Sea, while the Germans viewed as part of Continental Europe and necessary for the invasion and later maintenance of Eastern Europe. Places shown here as German were desired by the Italians, such as Yugoslavia, Bulgaria and especially the Straits of the Dardanelles and Bosphorus. A curiosity however is that they did not consider how while Greece did have a large faction of Pro-Germans (which formed the basis of the Pro-German Greek Dictatorship of 1941-1944) it had no Pro-Italians at all, yet it shows Greece under the Italian sphere of influence (or outright annexation).
Despite how it is often implied that the Italian invasion of Greece was a mere glory-chasing insanity of Benito Mussolini, this is the real cause of the Greco-Italian War, after the Italians panicked over German infiltration of Romania and Bulgarian politics, and their attempts to do the same in Yugoslavia. Which had the known effects that it did for the war, contributing even further to the over-extension of the Axis forces (both Italian and German), by introducing an entire new theatre into it.
Noticed or took seriously ? British leaders were quite confident that appeasement and threats would work
they did know they just didn’t give a fuck, before he went goblin mode
Same as Israel now
well, if it was in such quality, they probably couldn’t understand a thing
It’s not that „no one noticed“. It’s like with Project 2025: most people said „yeah but they won’t do that, calm down.“ Mad despot shit can be hard for a lot of people to take seriously when they want to believe the world is a rational, sensible place.