https://www.statista.com/statistics/263492/strompreise-in-ausgewählten-ländern/
Außerdem hat die Regierung gerade entschieden, dass neue Rechenzentren in Ordnung sind.
Nur ich oder ist das wirklich dumm?
2nd highest priced consumer electricity in the world
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Von Hungry-Western9191
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Is it just me or should we look into hydro. It’s fucking pissing down.
Data centers are good for the grid in the long term as the increase the base load which helps stabilise the supply. Though the rapid development of them requires costly grid upgrades in the short term. There is a right pace for the building of them which we are probably at the top end of.
That’s what happens when you prioritise solar (haven’t seen the sun in weeks) and wind (sometimes its not windy/windy enough/too windy), you subsidise it and pay through the nose for backup power.
Nuclear is the only solution.
Really should look at this as an opportunity – how can we super-size and build redundancy/resiliency of our power grid with it being paid for by the increased corporate demand.
Not sure how exactly – obviously the pricing schemes (e.g. spot prices set at highest needed provider) need adjustment, but given the variablity of our main natural resource (wind!), focus on energy storage.
And IMHO, there might be an opportunity to introduce nuclear energy – not huge TW plants, but perhaps with SMRs – smaller and well-distributed to relieve long-distance grid power transfer. Coupled with research/operations in the area?
But is it waste to over-provision? Perhaps, but with the interconnects (current and coming ones to France/UK) there is more opportunity to export. And, you can’t get resiliency without lowering efficiency (or perfect efficiency means no tolerance for problems/issues/breaks)
I suppose I am calling for the situation to be leaned-into…
If only the parties that have been in government for the past 25 years could figure out some way to solve some of the country’s problems.
Colour.
Me.
Shocked.
Something something hedging and or inflation bullshit
I expect the usual apologists to be along soon with this excuse
For those who don’t know. Data centres don’t just make electricity more expensive. They also make electricity more unstable and more vulnerable to blackouts, with absolutely no benefit to the population and employing 2-3 people.
We have decided that Lemassian economics on speed is the only way to do things. Absolutely nothing should be done to even slightly interfere with the profits of MNCs.
I realise the hugely important role that MNCs play in Ireland, but with the growing rise of wasteful AI usage to create slop, our grid is being put under immense pressure.
I am also aware that the EU is lagging way behind the US and China in the AI innovation race, but a small country with a very incompetent, lazy government and a complacent electorate cannot be made to carry a lot of the enormous weight of the electrical costs associated with AI.
We derive 65% of government revenue from the MNC sector so no, not stupid.
I’ve had a think about this and come to a.conclusion that even I don’t like.
The world has to switch over to 100% electricity so that we can stop burning fossil fuels so that the world doesn’t get too hot for human (and other) life. Right?
And so, whereas it used to be you were considered a lucky country if you had oil and gas, in the future, until fusion power happens, you can be considered a lucky country if you can power.yourself completely from renewables..right?
So, Ireland has a fantastic resource of reliable wind power potential. We could more.than power ourselves with our own wind. We use about 33tw of power in a year and the industry sees that up to 150tw of wind power generation exists here if the first generation of suitable candidate areas were completely built out.
Since we have to stop using fossil fuels and we have this particularly strong wind power national resource, why don’t we hop on the opportunity and become self sufficient from wind?
When the wind is blowing at average rates we’d be generating 5 times the national.consumption of Ireland. That means 4 times the national.consunption of Ireland would be available for sale to the highest bidder.
Among those bidders would be France and Britain through interconnectors. And of course those same interconnectors would be essential for us to import electricity from French solar and nuclear when the wind isn’t blowing enough to meet national demand (which would be rare enough in a 5 x overcapacity situation).
At these levels of overcapacity, eliminating Irish fossil fuel use in generation entirely, having the capacity in place to switch the country over to electrical heating and electric transport, and being self sufficient in power, in fact being a power exporter like Norway is now, and having a new mega industry based in Ireland and the west coast in particular, there is only one obstacle.
That people in Ireland object to seeing wind turbines. We prefer to keep burning fuels made from fossils. We would prefer to keep betraying every living thing on the planet, condemning our own children to a harsher life, than clean up our act than change what some of us see out our windows.
We should be screaming for wind power. And it doesn’t even need to be intrusive. There.is five times the national electricity needs of Ireland flowing by, unconverted to electricity, in suitable spots onshore and offshore. Commercially viable investments that Ireland can sell and tax, made in Ireland, and we are not grabbing the chance.