Mit Ring haben amerikanische Verbraucher eine Überwachungsfahndung aufgebaut
https://www.404media.co/with-ring-american-consumers-built-a-surveillance-dragnet/
Mit Ring haben amerikanische Verbraucher eine Überwachungsfahndung aufgebaut
https://www.404media.co/with-ring-american-consumers-built-a-surveillance-dragnet/
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Get rid of those cameras before it’s too late
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Ring is about to go through some things, lol
Don’t forget they held video of Savannah Guthrie’s mom’s kidnapper hostage because her subscription had lapsed, but they were still recording her every move 🙂
I just ordered a new doorbell/camera to replace the ring!!!
My neighbor’s dog got out of his backyard last week. We ended up trudging around in the snow for 2 hours looking for her before we found her, it was like 10 degrees out. We both have Ring doorbell cams, yet Ring did not show up and help us look so Ring can get fucked. Getting rid of this shit immediately
Yep! It’s pretty great.
Every time this topic comes up, I highly recommend David Brin’s „The Transparent Society.“ It’s a little old, but really creates a solid framework for thinking about what he called „sousveillance“ (the idea that cheap camera tech makes it possible for everyone to surveil everyone else).
It’s not really about the watching. It’s about whether we trust *Ring* to aggregate and control the watching. Outlaw Ring (which we could do!), and we still have folks plugging web cams into Raspberry Pis hooked up to a hard drive and then sharing that data with neighbors if there’s a reason to. And that might be better!
… but none of this is *going away*. Genie’s out of the bottle. The best you could do is outlaw all of it, and that’s just equivalent to saying „Only the State is allowed to do surveillance,“ and people pretty universally agree *that’s* *very bad*.
how people didn’t understand that this was going to be the eventuality is beyond me
I’m glad it did but why did it take the Super Bowl ad to realize this stuff is creepy? From the first time I saw web connected smart cameras I saw a countdown to the panovision in the dark knight.
I think what we can do with data and ai and all this stuff is cool and villainizing the tech is the wrong way to approach it because companies will be using it. I wish people were willing to put more effort into owning and using these tools themselves instead of letting companies own and run their lives. I really enjoy my cctv with recognition and alerts. It was a bitch to set up but I know where all that data lives and I can destroy it when/if I see fit.
Glad I never bought one
Take off that ring and throw it at the man that betrayed you!
Give him the business like Bernadine setting suits on fire
Edit: mixing up my movies
Alternative headline: American civility has collapsed to a point where homeowners will accept a surveillance dragnet and ring is there to help.
Lucky me! I was too broke to buy one!
There are other security cameras out there, they are not expensive, and they aren’t being used by fascists
I remember when Amazon was showing off their facial recognition nearly a decade ago. On their live stream I was the only one to bring up privacy concerns.
The use of individual cameras isn’t the issue, the problem is government and private company over-reach in taking control of those cameras.
And they didn’t make themselves safer. A couple buddies of mine put them on their front doors years ago. Very proud of themselves. Handled a DIY ’security‘ issue all by themselves….
In addition to the present dragnet they willingly became, did they put one on the back door or any form of surveillance on any other side of their house other than the front? Ah, no. So if someone’s casing your shit, wants in and sees the Ring cam out front, do you think they’re just moving on down the line or JUST COMING IN THE BACK?? Hate to burst a bubble, but ffs.
I have Arlo cameras. I don’t trust the smart home stuff.
Is there a decent alternative product? One that doesn’t have a subscription and doesn’t need to be connected to the internet?
How did people not see this coming?
I think it’s incredible how successful the company has been selling fear to consumers. The idea that people need cameras at their door, in their house, to help prevent crime. CIA and FBI dream of being this effective with a psyop
Oh would I like you to introduce you to a cell phone with cameras and microphones that can be turned on remotely.
I read about the ring cams being used to track immigrants a few weeks ago. I took mine off it’s spot and put it face down on my desk.
And the state doesn’t sell their traffic cam data?