Mit Ring haben amerikanische Verbraucher eine Überwachungsfahndung aufgebaut

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    1. Time to go self-hosted. I wouldn’t want that much footage of me in anyone’s hands but mine.

    2. Thanks for sharing our piece. More here:

      At Sunday’s Super Bowl, Ring advertised “Search Party,” a cute, horrifyingly dystopian feature nominally designed to turn all of the Ring cameras in a neighborhood into a dragnet that uses AI to look for a lost dog: “One post of a dog’s photo in the Ring app starts outdoor cameras looking for a match,” Ring founder Jamie Siminoff said in the Super Bowl commercial. “Search Party from Ring uses AI to help families find lost dogs.” Onscreen, an AI-powered box forms around a missing dog: “Milo Match,” it says. “Since launch, more than a dog a day has been reunited with their family. Be a hero in your neighborhood with Search Party. Available to everyone for free right now.”

      It does not take an imagination of any sort to envision this being tweaked to work against suspected criminals, undocumented immigrants, or others deemed ‘suspicious’ by people in the neighborhood. Many of these use cases are how Ring has been used by people on its [dystopian “Neighbors” app for years](https://www.vice.com/en/article/how-ring-transmits-fear-to-american-suburbs/?ref=404media.co). Ring rose to prominence as a piece of package theft prevention tech owned by Amazon and by forming partnerships with local police around the country, [asking them to shill their doorbell cameras](https://www.vice.com/en/article/amazon-requires-police-to-shill-surveillance-cameras-in-secret-agreement/?ref=404media.co) to people in their neighborhoods in return for a system that allowed police to request footage from individual users without a warrant. 

      Chris Gilliard, [a privacy expert](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kBgnjn5cC0&ref=404media.co) and author of the upcoming book [*Luxury Surveillance*](https://www.techpolicy.press/through-to-thriving-protecting-our-privacy-with-chris-gilliard/?ref=404media.co), told 404 Media these features and its Super Bowl ad are “a clumsy attempt by Ring to put a cuddly face on a rather dystopian reality: widespread networked surveillance by a company that has cozy relationships with law enforcement and other equally invasive surveillance companies.”

      Ring’s poorly defined partnership with Flock in particular has been the subject of various viral posts and public backlash. Many people have suggested that this partnership is evidence that Ring camera footage will be shared with ICE. At the moment there’s not enough evidence to explicitly say that that’s the case. 

      The supposed vector goes something like this: Ring says it will partner with Flock, which is used by thousands of local police departments. As we have reported, some of those police [departments have performed Flock license plate lookups for ICE](https://www.404media.co/ice-taps-into-nationwide-ai-enabled-camera-network-data-shows/). It’s too early to say whether Ring footage will eventually end up with ICE, but the fact that people immediately drew that conclusion and understood the possible method of information sharing shows that surveillance companies can no longer hide behind viral videos of delivery drivers dancing. It’s a mask off moment, and people know it: “In Amazon’s alliance with this administration, it’s become more clear than ever that Ring is an extension of the carceral state,” Gilliard said. “An emotionally charged Super Bowl ad won’t change that.”

      Read more: [https://www.404media.co/with-ring-american-consumers-built-a-surveillance-dragnet/](https://www.404media.co/with-ring-american-consumers-built-a-surveillance-dragnet/)

    3. I remember when my ISP sent a salesman to my house to upgrade my internet for cheaper, and I got a free Ring doorbell for it. I asked if I could get all of it without the Ring, but he was insistent I had to take it. I told him i would give it away if that was the case. He didn’t seem to care. 

      Self hosted is the way to go. UniFi is great. Spread the word. 

    4. I saw the Super Bowl commercial for the pet feature and thought to myself what would stop a stalker from using this to track their victims?

    5. Ok-Mycologist-3829 on

      I’ve done volunteering door knocking for candidates for elected office several years ago. Ring doorbells were creepy then, and I’ve hated them ever since.

    6. PacificTridentGlobel on

      Why would you still have one of these on your house? It’s insane.

    7. the_marvster on

      Laugh at China, who had to pay for the same results, while the US managed to made their citizen pay for it.

    8. No, we the consumer did not. Unregulated tech companies with zero oversight have.

    9. Even worse, skilled criminals know that they can just bring a signal jammer when it’s time to do crime and they won’t get caught.

    10. CutSenior4977 on

      Everyone should be throwing all of their ring cameras in the trash!

      All it’s doing is making you less safe!

    11. thaiberius_kirk on

      I’ve taken down our Ring cams and migrated to Reolink locally hosted. Works well with Home Assistant too.

    12. Feels like their SB commercial has backfired pretty spectacularly for them by highlighting the depth of their surveillance network to one of the largest media events of the year

    13. MissSharkyShark on

      People really should take security experts concerns more seriously… this genuinely shouldnt be a surprise to anyone. Anything „cloud based“ shouldnt ever be used for personal security or anything where you value your own privacy and personal security.

    14. monkeypickle8 on

      Ring is a cool idea but no one should be surprised they turned it into a surveillance network

    15. namastayhom33 on

      Wouldn’t be shocked if the refrigerators with the smart screens start to secretly record you.

      Honestly I was never big into the smart home trend

    16. Earthpig_Johnson on

      Best way to surveil a populace is to package it and sell it to them. They’ll buy it willingly.

    17. Every house on my block has a ring camera door bell, including mine. The neighborhood teens even have a game where the goal is to ring the door bell without being seen on camera. It’s hilarious to see them belly crawl across a front yard.

    18. Smart vacuums that map your home and store it in the cloud

      Smart doorbells that map your neighborhood and store it in the cloud

      Smart fridges that literally monitor your food and store it in the cloud

      The only thing smart about devices like these is never buying one

    19. DanimalPlays on

      Yeah, and we carry around phones. It’s fully big brother, and we pay to subscribe to it. It’s goddamn ridiculous. But also, what choice is there.

      Things are going great.

    20. Elevated_Dongers on

      Ring installer here, we are done quoting Ring. Just spoke with my boss. No more Ring cameras. Fuck them

    21. I can’t opt out because the „Control Center“ option doesn’t work (it gets hung up and closes). I’m curious if that’s an issue for anyone else?

    22. My new house came with a Ring and I abandoned it as soon as I could. The app is awful, the fact it doesn’t give you any history without a paid plan is a deal breaker. How this became one of the most popular is beyond me outside of the first to market advantage.

    23. Bebopdavidson on

      Isn’t this the technology that was a big moral issue at the end of The Dark Knight?

    24. What the heck is everyone so afraid of. Get rid of the cameras. You don’t need them. The surveillance state is dystopian and gross.

    25. TriangleBasketball on

      My In-laws have a ring and all that stuff plus Alexa’s all over their house. They got us some of those things a few years ago. Half of it is still in a box and I sold the other half.

      No way I’m putting literal cameras and microphones all over my place.

    26. If you like to tinker or build things, get a Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W and a camera module and make your own local-network-only door camera. It’s actually pretty easy to do and there are tons of online tutorials for doing this, and if you want to get fancy you can add things like bidirectional audio. Plus, you own it and you control it.

    27. surfergrrl6 on

      Articles like this make me appreciate that I’ve been too lazy to bother with any camera system in my living space. I just use ye olde peephole.

    28. I have no smart devices except a phone and internet and wifi and life is fine.

      No smart fridge, no smart thermostat where the company can control the temp of my house.

      I refused to buy a ring doorbell. I don’t want devices seeing my habits.

      Get a knock on the door, don’t open it unless you know the person simple as that, not that hard to do.

    29. Most-Writer-2838 on

      Removed my doorbell cameras, ended my subscription and I’m gonna throw out the whole system. Not even going to resell it, because these are instruments to create a government accessible panopticon more so now than ever before.

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