What’s the source? If this is self-reported data, I wouldn’t trust it. People (Americans especially) are pretty unreliable at knowing their actual ancestry.
Talking out of nowhere here, but my guess is that Utah is so blue because Mormons actually know their ancestry
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Actual genetic evidence shows otherwise for the USA. The vast vast majority of white americans past the appalachians are either german or english in descent.
Since the British Empire colonized what are now the US, Australia and Canada, those of British ancestry have dominated the social, demographic, political, economic, and cultural fabrics of each nation. However, as each nation developed differently, the demographics look a bit different. In the US, British ancestry is higher in the states that used to be part of the 13 colonies and is much lower in the Midwest (where Germans and other continental Europeans make up the majority) and the Southwest (where Hispanics make up the majority). In Canada, those of British ancestry are still the majority in most of English-speaking Canada and are only a minority in French-speaking Canada (Quebec/Acadia) and places with high Indigenous populations. In Australia, those of British ancestry are also still the clear majority throughout the whole country with the exceptions of certain regional areas that have high Indigenous populations.
Beneficial_Effort595 on
Isn’t the American one a bit wrong because many Americans put themselves as being „American“ on the census, when they are in fact English
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**In the US, by state (highest %):**
1. Utah (33%)
2. Maine (27%)
3. Vermont (25%)
4. New Hampshire (24%)
5. Idaho (23%)
**In the US, by state (lowest %):**
1. Hawaii (6%)
2. North Dakota (6.7%)
3. New Jersey (6.8%)
4. New York (7.2%)
5. Louisiana (7.8%)
**In Australia, by state/territory (highest %):**
1. Tasmania (75%)
2. Western Australia (57%)
3. Queensland (55%)
4. South Australia (48%)
5. Australian Capital Territory (44%)
**In Canada, by province/territory (highest %):**
1. Prince Edward Island (71%)
2. Newfoundland & Labrador (70%)
3. Nova Scotia (62%)
4. Yukon (58%)
5. British Columbia (51%)
*This only includes those who have ancestry from England, Scotland, and Wales, and not Ireland)*
RhodesiaNeverDied on
Does this count those with ancestry from Northern Ireland? That makes a big difference for states like West Virginia.
Walkman1942 on
In Australia and the US, there are significant groups of British/Irish descended people who mark their ancestry as being „American“ or „Australian“. Which means maps like this can often severely undercount the number of people with ancestry from the British Isles.
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For the US a huge chunk of people identify as just „American“.
That’s people who are overwhelmingly of British ancestry, but have been here so long (250-300 years) that it’s stupid to claim English anymore.
So it’s safe to assume the numbers are actually larger.
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I guess that’s why we call it British Columbia.
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British Columbia checks out
simmocar on
West Aussie here. It’s not even ancestry in my state, every third person I’ve ever worked with or met has some variation of British accent.
Sick_and_destroyed on
That’s why the USA succeeded
Ana_Na_Moose on
I would wonder what definition of “British” was used, what the methodology was, and also whether this was just primary ancestry that was being polled, or if each person could have multiple answers.
For example, while the vast majority of my ancestry is German, Swiss, Czech, and Alsatian, my family tree in the US stretches significantly beyond the first census, and while I assume that some of the last names in my family tree are probably British, I cannot label a single British immigrant ancestor.
Then you have the question of what to call the Scotch-Irish.
And I would also wonder if the British ancestry in African Americans might be undercounted (since raping slaves wasn’t exactly unheard of for plantation owners to do)
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A lot of people have been in the us for such a long time that they just identify as American, but are still ethnically British. Most of the white people in the south are in this category especially.
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What’s the source? If this is self-reported data, I wouldn’t trust it. People (Americans especially) are pretty unreliable at knowing their actual ancestry.
Talking out of nowhere here, but my guess is that Utah is so blue because Mormons actually know their ancestry
Actual genetic evidence shows otherwise for the USA. The vast vast majority of white americans past the appalachians are either german or english in descent.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Americans](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Americans) – 18% of the US population
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Canadians](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Canadians) – 34% of total Canadian population
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Celtic_Australians](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Celtic_Australians) – 45% of total Australian population
Since the British Empire colonized what are now the US, Australia and Canada, those of British ancestry have dominated the social, demographic, political, economic, and cultural fabrics of each nation. However, as each nation developed differently, the demographics look a bit different. In the US, British ancestry is higher in the states that used to be part of the 13 colonies and is much lower in the Midwest (where Germans and other continental Europeans make up the majority) and the Southwest (where Hispanics make up the majority). In Canada, those of British ancestry are still the majority in most of English-speaking Canada and are only a minority in French-speaking Canada (Quebec/Acadia) and places with high Indigenous populations. In Australia, those of British ancestry are also still the clear majority throughout the whole country with the exceptions of certain regional areas that have high Indigenous populations.
Isn’t the American one a bit wrong because many Americans put themselves as being „American“ on the census, when they are in fact English
**In the US, by state (highest %):**
1. Utah (33%)
2. Maine (27%)
3. Vermont (25%)
4. New Hampshire (24%)
5. Idaho (23%)
**In the US, by state (lowest %):**
1. Hawaii (6%)
2. North Dakota (6.7%)
3. New Jersey (6.8%)
4. New York (7.2%)
5. Louisiana (7.8%)
**In Australia, by state/territory (highest %):**
1. Tasmania (75%)
2. Western Australia (57%)
3. Queensland (55%)
4. South Australia (48%)
5. Australian Capital Territory (44%)
**In Canada, by province/territory (highest %):**
1. Prince Edward Island (71%)
2. Newfoundland & Labrador (70%)
3. Nova Scotia (62%)
4. Yukon (58%)
5. British Columbia (51%)
*This only includes those who have ancestry from England, Scotland, and Wales, and not Ireland)*
Does this count those with ancestry from Northern Ireland? That makes a big difference for states like West Virginia.
In Australia and the US, there are significant groups of British/Irish descended people who mark their ancestry as being „American“ or „Australian“. Which means maps like this can often severely undercount the number of people with ancestry from the British Isles.
For the US a huge chunk of people identify as just „American“.
That’s people who are overwhelmingly of British ancestry, but have been here so long (250-300 years) that it’s stupid to claim English anymore.
So it’s safe to assume the numbers are actually larger.
I guess that’s why we call it British Columbia.
British Columbia checks out
West Aussie here. It’s not even ancestry in my state, every third person I’ve ever worked with or met has some variation of British accent.
That’s why the USA succeeded
I would wonder what definition of “British” was used, what the methodology was, and also whether this was just primary ancestry that was being polled, or if each person could have multiple answers.
For example, while the vast majority of my ancestry is German, Swiss, Czech, and Alsatian, my family tree in the US stretches significantly beyond the first census, and while I assume that some of the last names in my family tree are probably British, I cannot label a single British immigrant ancestor.
Then you have the question of what to call the Scotch-Irish.
And I would also wonder if the British ancestry in African Americans might be undercounted (since raping slaves wasn’t exactly unheard of for plantation owners to do)
A lot of people have been in the us for such a long time that they just identify as American, but are still ethnically British. Most of the white people in the south are in this category especially.