Hallo Leute, ich kann australische Immobilien nicht ausstehen, sie sind hässlich und blöd überteuert. Abgesehen von den administrativen/internationalen Hürden gibt es Ihrer Meinung nach auch Nachteile beim Besitz und Wohnen in einer solchen Immobilie DAS ?
Für mich sieht es wie ein verdammt magisches Wunderland aus. Wir haben hier in Australien nur 50 Grad Celsius, von Dürre geplagt, flach, trocken, einfach objektiv hässliches, nicht-architektonisches Design. Wenn Sie irgendwo mit Bäumen oder grünem Laub leben und ein kühles, komfortables Haus haben möchten, müssen Sie buchstäblich Millionen von AUD ausgeben. Wir haben keine Optionen. Aus Verzweiflung und ein wenig Delirium schaue ich mir jetzt O/S-Plätze an.
Wie ist es, in diesen magischen norwegischen Fantasieimmobilien zu leben? Werden sie für euch Einheimischen als schön angesehen? Oder lahm? Frieren sie? Es würde mich interessieren, von jedem zu hören, der aus Australien dorthin gezogen ist oder ein Einheimischer ist und in einem ähnlichen Haus wie dem oben verlinkten gelebt hat. Prost
Why can't an Australian buy this property? What is the catch?
byu/Humble_Hetfield_Nerd inNorway
Von Humble_Hetfield_Nerd
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That’s just a cabin, dude. It’s not a home, but used in weekends and vacations.
Well, to begin with it’s not a house. It’s a cabin. Nobody lives there, literally. Don’t get me wrong, people live in Nesbyen, but not all the way up there(this cabin is quite far up the mountain). That area is a „Hyttefelt“ or „Cabin field“ if you will. If you Google the address every other building you see in that area is a cabin
Edit: you might wonder OP why everyone is pointing out that it’s a vacation home and not a house as you might think „I don’t care what people use it for now“. Problem is you’re likely not*allowed* to live there as your primary residence. The are regulations as to what qualifies as a home in Norway.
its in the middle of nowhere
This is a cabin meant for vacations. Number of reasons why it’s not good for permanent living. Among other things because it’s not connected to water. Let me know when you figure out where the toilet is 😎
This is a very typical modern Norwegian cabin.
It has the style of everything indoors being made from pine and old furniture.
Very few people live in these but many families own one and spend time there semi-regularly.
The insulation is likely quite poor, which comes with the age and how it is used, so expect need to have a fire running indoors for half the year.
Seems to be quite remote, but I guess that is part of the appeal for you.
Hopefully it has water, and sewage.
Well, for starters: you’re not allowed to live there. It’s a vacation home.
I only skimmed the link, but for this one it seems like you need a generator for electricity and you dont have built in water pipes.
You absolutely can live there, but Its not really meant to be a permanent residence. You might have trouble with things like mail and emergency services
Also, calling it a chalet is a damn joke.
Aside from the obvious – far from shops, no running water, electricity, internet or road – it as also illegal to live permanently in a cabin.
If you want to live in a place like that, be my guest. There are many that choose to live in the middle of the forest, only making trips into the village / town / nearest shopping center when you need food or other supplies. But are there any jobs around, or are you looking to live off social security? How far do you have to commute to find that one relevant job you applied for? How will the neighborhood work for you when you want to socialize, or have a pint of lager at the nearest bar? You’ll find yourself isolated, for better and for worse. You’ll do your own snowshoveling for sure, and if you’re really lucky that’s all you’ll have time for, days in and days out. Autumn is spent building up your wood storage for heating during winter. At a power outage you may find that your cabin / house is not on the priority list and will be one forge last houses to get the power back. In the mean time you’re scrambling for candles and where you hid that emergency gas lamp. And at winter time, you’ll find that every morning is freezing, as the stove burnt out yesterday night while you were asleep. So the first thing you do is getting the fire back in the stove. Every day for at least three to four months. If that sounds like an appealing lifestyle to you, welcome.
Kangaroos are not.allowed in Norway /s
For all those wondering, Australia doesn’t really do the concept of a cabin in the woods with no power, water, etc.
I’d say 97%+ houses are connected to the power grid, water and sewer network in Australia, and all are built to Australian Standards/National Construction Code, so our concept of a cabin is more like a proper beachside holiday house that most city folk rent out to tourists during the warmer months and leave vacant during the winter. For example, Apollo Bay (200km south west of Melbourne) only has a permanent population of 1,790 with tonnes of holiday homes left vacant, but when summer hits, the town swells to 10,000-15,000 easily.
You can go rent an airbnb like that and see if you like that type of living, that would be my recommendation before commiting to it. The one specifically you linked to is a cabin, but in sure there exists similar properties that aren’t. Try it out as a tourist first, or else this type of move can be a quite expensive mistake.
Others are talking about how you are not technically allowed to live in a place like this, I will just talk about what you would do for it to work.
There is no limit to how many days you can spend at your vacation home, you just need a separate address. Somewhere nearby, so that you can pick up mail from there, and „officially live there“. This other apartment will probably be useful if you plan on actually working.
The real cost is „this plus an apartment“, not „just this“. The cheapest rental available in Nesbyen is 9000kr/month, the cheapest apartment I can find is 3 million kr. You need to add this to the cost of the vacation home, basically making it four times as expensive as you indicated.
If you start your Australian budget at four times your current indicated price, I am sure you can get something „good“.
There is also the option of „renting a room“, but as this is not really a normal practice in norway, you will have to know someone first.
To live permanently in a Norwegian cabin, you must change its legal status from **recreational** to **permanent residence**.
**1. The Application**
You must apply for a **“Change of Use“** (*bruksendring*) through your local municipality. Since most cabins are in protected zones, you will likely also need a **zoning dispensation** (*dispensasjon*).
**2. Building Requirements**
Your cabin must usually meet **TEK17** standards, which are stricter than cabin standards regarding:
* **Insulation and Ventilation:** Must be suitable for year-round living.
* **Safety:** Radon measurements must be within legal limits.
* **Accessibility:** The building must meet modern „universal design“ requirements.
**3. Municipal Requirements**
The municipality will check if they can support you living there:
* **Roads:** The road must be plowed in winter for emergency vehicles.
* **Utilities:** Water and sewage systems must handle year-round use.
* **Services:** The town must be able to provide garbage collection and school buses.
**4. Costs and Consequences**
* **Fees:** Expect high application fees (often 10,000–30,000 NOK).
* **Taxes:** Your property taxes and municipal utility fees will likely increase.
* **Status:** Once changed, it may be difficult to revert the property back to „recreational“ status.
To help you further, I can:
* Find the **contact info** for your specific municipality.
* Explain the **TEK17 technical requirements** in more detail.
* Look up **current processing fees** for your region.
The above is AI answers, because it’s too much of a hassle to work out.
I know a guy who lives in a small cabin out near the sea (he needs to get his permanent residence extended every 2 years, I believe) . I do by far recommend that as being near the sea guarantees milder temps. That cabin of yours could have deep freezes. Have all the amenities of a regular house and a road all the way to it, along with a flat landscape around your cabin so getting sofas and other heavy stuff isn’t a 2 day endeavour.
I can’t even find the listing on finn
As others have stated, it is against regulations to live in a cabin permanently.
BUT. There is a but. It is possible to seek approval from the municipality to get permission to live there.
In Nesbyen specifically, you can seek approval.
For the municipality to approve your application, they set a number of requirements for the cabin itself. In practice, it must function as a regular house.
The most important requirements are:
– Water and sewage: You must have running water and an approved sewage solution that meets the requirements for a permanent residence.
– Road access: There must be a year-round road (plowed in winter) all the way to the cabin. The cabin can not be located behind a closed toll gate/barrier.
– Electricity: The cabin must have electricity installed.
– Radon: You must be able to document that radon levels are within the limit values.
– Waste: You must switch to household waste collection (as for regular houses) instead of the leisure/cabin waste collection service.
So, as you may have gathered, it is possible to live in a cabin permanently. But it will be expensive to upgrade the cabin and property to meet the requirements given by the municipality.