Every time he tries to hide behind this shite, it should be drilled gone repeatedly that the migration issue is entirely due to his party, both the FF wing of it and the FG one.
People have been making sounds about the dangers and potential fallout, even just from a sheer logistical POV (eg. number of people in Ireland vs number of available dwellings and not the ‚white replacement‘ racist shite) and for years the likes of Simon and Helen McEntee wrote it all off a „far right rhetoric.“
AnyDamnThingWillDo on
I remember a politician on the Late Late in the 80’s looking directly at the camera and telling us to leave because there was nothing or us here. Nothing has changed in those 40 odd years
AsanteSane on
Spoken like a man who hasn’t been in government for all of this housing fiasco
eggsbenedict17 on
Not exactly a controversial statement
AtraVenator on
Most of it shouldn’t to be honest. Also there should be a review and reclaim process where the context changes.
shorelined on
They’re painting this now as just for new arrivals, but the Overton window will move back quickly. I give it month’s before columnists are proposing that parents lose their social housing if their kid fucks up.
caisdara on
The headline is misleading but is still correct.
MrWhiteside97 on
I don’t understand this debate. Not everyone in emergency accommodation has the right to social housing (that’s what the circular he’s referring to is talking about)
…so?
This statement is meaningless from a policy point of view, so I can only interpret it as a political wink to the right that the government isn’t afraid to say bad things about migrants, and won’t be „silenced“ or „shut down“ by those woke lefties
saggynaggy123 on
„Not everyone has a right to state housing, but institutional landlords have a rignt to buy up all the new housing“
NotAnotherOne2024 on
He’s factual correct, Section 7 Non-EEA nationals of Housing Circular 41/2012 covers it. It’s a sad state of affairs when individuals and journalists can’t distinguish between policy and opinions.
MotoPsycho on
Yet another attempt to reframe the housing crisis as being the fault of immigrants. It’s not subtle but it’ll sadly probably work.
Temporary_Sell3384 on
Very interesting Inside Politics podcast this week that pointed out the Tánaiste always goes after homeless immigrants and never well-paid immigrants workers who actually drive up rent
He appears to be subtly conflating emergency accomodation with state housing more generally-as the circular lays out the entitlement to the latter is clearly laid out (e.g. you can’t rock up off the boat and get a free house)
BuzzKill91 on
Ah thr good old dogwhistling.
Yuo_cna_Raed_Tihs on
He is correct
EltonBongJovi on
Wow, so brave.
D3cho on
Here’s an interesting scenario / game.
Check social housing earning requirements for the vast majority of the country, by that I mean the max amount of EUR a single person can be earning that allows them to be able to apply for social housing in the most populated areas. Keep in mind the amount stated is net, not gross so this would be after tax, meaning how much earned is actually a bit higher
Now compare that to min wage yearly income
Or compare that figure to the current median wage earned in Ireland.
Looking at those figures, please explain to me how they seriously dont expect a large majority of the country to not think they have the right or need to be in social housing.
Its ridiculous.
The other thing thats ridiculous is the difference a social house costs compared to renting. You are talking 300-400 (can be way less if earning low or on welfare) a month vs a min of 1.3k a month, (an remeber you’ll never be sharing in social housing, I actually shuddered writing that as i can see them putting this forward as an idea in the not so distant future… )The gap here is way to vast
Proposal, get these 2 monthly amounts closer to one another. Make renting an approachable thing for everyone, make renting more appealing. Make it so while renting people can still save and eventually get their own place instead of dumping 30-50% of monthly earning solely on having a roof over your head while you wallow in depression of never being able to change that cause you cant ever save more than 20 eur a month due to these costs
Until that changes then everyone will want a right to social housing and they are not wrong for wanting it given the alternative
SoloWingPixy88 on
Is this an ai article? No one taking credit
Fern_Pub_Radio on
I understand the point being made in the article an agree with it- if you chose to take your opinions from click bait headlines , well off with you for an hour of rabid frothing at the mouth….
Notherugsdontwork on
Rte are fuckin shameless, never truly challenging government narrative. I suppose they need to toe the line to stay afloat. David McCullough like a fella that’s heavy medicated
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Every time he tries to hide behind this shite, it should be drilled gone repeatedly that the migration issue is entirely due to his party, both the FF wing of it and the FG one.
People have been making sounds about the dangers and potential fallout, even just from a sheer logistical POV (eg. number of people in Ireland vs number of available dwellings and not the ‚white replacement‘ racist shite) and for years the likes of Simon and Helen McEntee wrote it all off a „far right rhetoric.“
I remember a politician on the Late Late in the 80’s looking directly at the camera and telling us to leave because there was nothing or us here. Nothing has changed in those 40 odd years
Spoken like a man who hasn’t been in government for all of this housing fiasco
Not exactly a controversial statement
Most of it shouldn’t to be honest. Also there should be a review and reclaim process where the context changes.
They’re painting this now as just for new arrivals, but the Overton window will move back quickly. I give it month’s before columnists are proposing that parents lose their social housing if their kid fucks up.
The headline is misleading but is still correct.
I don’t understand this debate. Not everyone in emergency accommodation has the right to social housing (that’s what the circular he’s referring to is talking about)
…so?
This statement is meaningless from a policy point of view, so I can only interpret it as a political wink to the right that the government isn’t afraid to say bad things about migrants, and won’t be „silenced“ or „shut down“ by those woke lefties
„Not everyone has a right to state housing, but institutional landlords have a rignt to buy up all the new housing“
He’s factual correct, Section 7 Non-EEA nationals of Housing Circular 41/2012 covers it. It’s a sad state of affairs when individuals and journalists can’t distinguish between policy and opinions.
Yet another attempt to reframe the housing crisis as being the fault of immigrants. It’s not subtle but it’ll sadly probably work.
Very interesting Inside Politics podcast this week that pointed out the Tánaiste always goes after homeless immigrants and never well-paid immigrants workers who actually drive up rent
Jeez, Simon, what an idea. [If only it was a long established policy already](https://www.gov.ie/en/department-of-housing-local-government-and-heritage/circulars/circular-housing-412012-access-to-social-housing-supports-for-non-irish-nationals/)
He appears to be subtly conflating emergency accomodation with state housing more generally-as the circular lays out the entitlement to the latter is clearly laid out (e.g. you can’t rock up off the boat and get a free house)
Ah thr good old dogwhistling.
He is correct
Wow, so brave.
Here’s an interesting scenario / game.
Check social housing earning requirements for the vast majority of the country, by that I mean the max amount of EUR a single person can be earning that allows them to be able to apply for social housing in the most populated areas. Keep in mind the amount stated is net, not gross so this would be after tax, meaning how much earned is actually a bit higher
Now compare that to min wage yearly income
Or compare that figure to the current median wage earned in Ireland.
Looking at those figures, please explain to me how they seriously dont expect a large majority of the country to not think they have the right or need to be in social housing.
Its ridiculous.
The other thing thats ridiculous is the difference a social house costs compared to renting. You are talking 300-400 (can be way less if earning low or on welfare) a month vs a min of 1.3k a month, (an remeber you’ll never be sharing in social housing, I actually shuddered writing that as i can see them putting this forward as an idea in the not so distant future… )The gap here is way to vast
Proposal, get these 2 monthly amounts closer to one another. Make renting an approachable thing for everyone, make renting more appealing. Make it so while renting people can still save and eventually get their own place instead of dumping 30-50% of monthly earning solely on having a roof over your head while you wallow in depression of never being able to change that cause you cant ever save more than 20 eur a month due to these costs
Until that changes then everyone will want a right to social housing and they are not wrong for wanting it given the alternative
Is this an ai article? No one taking credit
I understand the point being made in the article an agree with it- if you chose to take your opinions from click bait headlines , well off with you for an hour of rabid frothing at the mouth….
Rte are fuckin shameless, never truly challenging government narrative. I suppose they need to toe the line to stay afloat. David McCullough like a fella that’s heavy medicated