It wasn’t as bad as it could have been if a human with slower reaction times was driving. I’m all for safety regulations, but this really seems like a case where the child was lucky a human wasn’t driving…and I can’t believe I’m saying that, since I’m fairly strongly anti-AI. I also know, though, how horribly inattentive most drivers are, so…
>Waymo said its robotaxi struck the child at 6 miles per hour, after braking “hard” from around 17 miles per hour. The young pedestrian “suddenly entered the roadway from behind a tall SUV, moving directly into our vehicle’s path,” the company said in its blog post. Waymo said its vehicle “immediately detected the individual as soon as they began to emerge from behind the stopped vehicle.”
And
>Waymo said in its blog post that its “peer-reviewed model” shows a “fully attentive human driver in this same situation would have made contact with the pedestrian at approximately 14 mph.” The company did not release a specific analysis of this crash.
reasonosaur on
Is the child okay??
TropicalPossum954 on
Waymo kids will be hit if nothing is done about it
Myrdraall on
Would the kid have fared worse with a human driver is the question. I still vividly remember like 15 years ago a child running from behind a black pickup towards the street right in front of me and his father’s hand appearing like a striking snake to yank him back as I hit the brakes. I was in a Prius going 25kph and there was no way that car stopped in time to not cause harm. You’re actively watching for this and it still surprises you.
throwaway2b4c on
I expect this to happen waymo times
CHobbes_ on
This is actually a win for waymo.
Jenicillin on
Children do run out in the road. This is no more of a shitty accident than if a human was driving. That said, I’m not sure AI should be driving.
bprevatt on
This article is a Waymo press release
COPE_V2 on
How many people have been hit by human-operated cars this week in Santa Monica?
Slippery-ape on
So who is going to jail?
Doza13 on
If it was a human, they’d be going 40 and likely drive off.
Lucky_Chaarmss on
Unfortunately I was in a situation like this. I was doing the speed limit and a kid came flying out of an alley on his bike. A second sooner or later who knows what would have happened but he got up and ran home. Police came and after talking to him and his friend they came to the conclusion I wasnt at fault. The kid was rattled but fine.
Hacym on
I got cut off by a Waymo a couple nights ago. It was my turn at a four way stop and it just went, turning into my right of way.
Glad they decided to make them realistic drivers at least.
HikerDave57 on
I had a kid in my neighborhood run out into the road in front of my car but I didn’t hit him because I know that kids are stupid and do things like that all the time so I was driving slowly. But a Waymo car doesn’t know anything and would have ruined him.
LV426acheron on
So the car saved the child’s life by being able to brake so quickly.
Themodsarecuntz on
They dont have to be perfect they just have to be better than us.
Kinggakman on
This thread has got to be mostly bots. Down voting anyone bringing up reasonable responses and ignoring people not blindly trusting Waymo.
No-Neighborhood-3212 on
The Waymo shills in the comment section are really telling on themselves.
HighSpeedHedgehog on
Lotta waymo astroturfing going on in here. A human driver would NOT have hit the child because a human driver would not be IN the circumstance of driving 14 miles per hour directly in front of a school as there was children actively leaving it
EscapeFacebook on
Oh look, the inevitable happened. How many dead kids do we have to have before driverless cars are outlawed?
Bob_Sconce on
Better headline: „Robot taxi saves child from serious injuries after he runs into traffic.“
thinker2501 on
It’s pretty obvious most of the people making anti-AV comments don’t actually live somewhere that has them. The child ran into the street from behind an SUV and the AV immediately braked hard, many humans don’t have that reaction time _and_ driver faster than 17mph through school zones. [AVs are objectively safer than human drivers](https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/we-absolutely-do-know-that-waymos). Anecdotally, as a pedestrian and cyclist in SF I have had countless close calls with humans driver recklessly or distracted, I haven’t had a single one with a Waymo. They aren’t perfect, but they are already safer than humans and are in a state of continuous improvement.
popshamhocks on
I don’t believe this many people are simping for Waymo after those cone protests
whitemiketyson on
Where is Dan O’Dowd on this one?
Secret_Account07 on
I’m going to take an unusual stance on this…
We really need to embrace autonomous driving as the future. Humans are terrible at it. Anyone who looks at the stats on humans driving knows it. I think humans on average will crash every ~300k miles. A death for about every 100 million miles driven. Now with that said if my kid is killed by a robot would I care about stats? Probably not.
So really the issue is regulation. Companies are not going to act what’s in the interest of the greater good. Their decisions are going to be based on $$. That’s where the govt **should** come in. But as anyone in America knows – it’s all about who you know and who’s palms you’ve greased
So with all that said I try to keep my first point in mind when I hear these stories. Now this one obviously isn’t as serious but I worry a few headlines can push that point back where driving becomes more safe.
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It wasn’t as bad as it could have been if a human with slower reaction times was driving. I’m all for safety regulations, but this really seems like a case where the child was lucky a human wasn’t driving…and I can’t believe I’m saying that, since I’m fairly strongly anti-AI. I also know, though, how horribly inattentive most drivers are, so…
>Waymo said its robotaxi struck the child at 6 miles per hour, after braking “hard” from around 17 miles per hour. The young pedestrian “suddenly entered the roadway from behind a tall SUV, moving directly into our vehicle’s path,” the company said in its blog post. Waymo said its vehicle “immediately detected the individual as soon as they began to emerge from behind the stopped vehicle.”
And
>Waymo said in its blog post that its “peer-reviewed model” shows a “fully attentive human driver in this same situation would have made contact with the pedestrian at approximately 14 mph.” The company did not release a specific analysis of this crash.
Is the child okay??
Waymo kids will be hit if nothing is done about it
Would the kid have fared worse with a human driver is the question. I still vividly remember like 15 years ago a child running from behind a black pickup towards the street right in front of me and his father’s hand appearing like a striking snake to yank him back as I hit the brakes. I was in a Prius going 25kph and there was no way that car stopped in time to not cause harm. You’re actively watching for this and it still surprises you.
I expect this to happen waymo times
This is actually a win for waymo.
Children do run out in the road. This is no more of a shitty accident than if a human was driving. That said, I’m not sure AI should be driving.
This article is a Waymo press release
How many people have been hit by human-operated cars this week in Santa Monica?
So who is going to jail?
If it was a human, they’d be going 40 and likely drive off.
Unfortunately I was in a situation like this. I was doing the speed limit and a kid came flying out of an alley on his bike. A second sooner or later who knows what would have happened but he got up and ran home. Police came and after talking to him and his friend they came to the conclusion I wasnt at fault. The kid was rattled but fine.
I got cut off by a Waymo a couple nights ago. It was my turn at a four way stop and it just went, turning into my right of way.
Glad they decided to make them realistic drivers at least.
I had a kid in my neighborhood run out into the road in front of my car but I didn’t hit him because I know that kids are stupid and do things like that all the time so I was driving slowly. But a Waymo car doesn’t know anything and would have ruined him.
So the car saved the child’s life by being able to brake so quickly.
They dont have to be perfect they just have to be better than us.
This thread has got to be mostly bots. Down voting anyone bringing up reasonable responses and ignoring people not blindly trusting Waymo.
The Waymo shills in the comment section are really telling on themselves.
Lotta waymo astroturfing going on in here. A human driver would NOT have hit the child because a human driver would not be IN the circumstance of driving 14 miles per hour directly in front of a school as there was children actively leaving it
Oh look, the inevitable happened. How many dead kids do we have to have before driverless cars are outlawed?
Better headline: „Robot taxi saves child from serious injuries after he runs into traffic.“
It’s pretty obvious most of the people making anti-AV comments don’t actually live somewhere that has them. The child ran into the street from behind an SUV and the AV immediately braked hard, many humans don’t have that reaction time _and_ driver faster than 17mph through school zones. [AVs are objectively safer than human drivers](https://www.theargumentmag.com/p/we-absolutely-do-know-that-waymos). Anecdotally, as a pedestrian and cyclist in SF I have had countless close calls with humans driver recklessly or distracted, I haven’t had a single one with a Waymo. They aren’t perfect, but they are already safer than humans and are in a state of continuous improvement.
I don’t believe this many people are simping for Waymo after those cone protests
Where is Dan O’Dowd on this one?
I’m going to take an unusual stance on this…
We really need to embrace autonomous driving as the future. Humans are terrible at it. Anyone who looks at the stats on humans driving knows it. I think humans on average will crash every ~300k miles. A death for about every 100 million miles driven. Now with that said if my kid is killed by a robot would I care about stats? Probably not.
So really the issue is regulation. Companies are not going to act what’s in the interest of the greater good. Their decisions are going to be based on $$. That’s where the govt **should** come in. But as anyone in America knows – it’s all about who you know and who’s palms you’ve greased
So with all that said I try to keep my first point in mind when I hear these stories. Now this one obviously isn’t as serious but I worry a few headlines can push that point back where driving becomes more safe.