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    Öffentliche Ausgaben für europäische Monarchien, Mio. €


    Öffentliche Ausgaben für europäische Monarchien, Mio. €

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    2. SClausell on

      Mind that the official spending is lower than it really is. Sometimes it won’t include for example the military and police protecting them, so it’s actually more.

    3. Nuthetes on

      Misleading

      The „public money“ that the UK spends on the Royal Family is from the Sovereign Grant which is funds generated by the crown estate, of which 15% goes to the crown (upped to 25% percent to cover refurbishment of Buckingham Palace) and the rest goes to the government.

    4. Keh_veli on

      Would be interesting to compare these on a per capita basis. 44 million for Monaco seems crazy high relative to the population of the country?

    5. markv1182 on

      I wonder how much higher the spend on monarchies is compared to other ceremonial heads of state. What do Germany and France spend on their presidents?

    6. richsu on

      Imagine spending that amount of money on a PR agency or some consultancy firm with the goal to market your country and get tourists to it. It wouldn’t result in anything and would be a waste. The royal family is doing a great job and I would not like to have their lives, good public servants! I think it adds a nice historic touch and nice to have a part of the establishment that is party neutral and long term.

    8. lukkelose on

      Now do a study that looks at how much revenue the Royal families attract to their respective countries. That would be interesting!

    9. Bubblebless on

      I can’t talk for the others, but Spain uses more money. That’s just the public spending under label „crown“, it doesn’t mean there isn’t further spending for the crown. Indeed there is. Interesting to check spending for monarchies, but you can’t take just „Crown spending“ and compare it, you need first to make comparable.

      Or like we say in spanish, no hay que mezclar churras con merinas.

    10. Kakazam on

      Now compare to how much money the crown bring into the country via tourism and diplomatic ties.

      Pretty sure the UK monarch bring something like £1.5 – £2 *billion* in return.

    11. Unitaig on

      It costs little old Ireland, with 7 million people, **€6.2 million** to run our Presidency. We’re at about €1.20 per person, UK is at about €2.10 per person, but probably get a decent economic boost from tourism which buffers some of that.

      I’m no royalist, but the cost is largely irrelevant, in my view, to argument for abolition.

    12. -Thizza- on

      Foreign countries love to play around with monarchs, it makes them feel special. As long as our king keeps dancing like a monkey to bring trade relations in, I’m okay with it. If they bend the rules and dodge taxes or something they need to be reprimanded, they’re not above the law.

    13. No-Ant5172 on

      Would also be interesting to know what benefits and opportunities do The Crown bring to a country 

    14. whatstefansees on

      It all sounds like a lot, but if you break it down per inhabitant, you get A LOT of entertainment for a few bucks per year

    15. Uebeltank on

      For most of these countries the amount shown is what goes directly to the royal house. So without more broader expenses like security or travel expenses. On the other hand, the amount of money that is basically equivalent to personal income is lower than it might imply. Most money is paid as salary to employees who assist in the official duties.

    16. piercedmfootonaspike on

      The Luxembourg and Denmark gems should swap places, and I’m irrationally irritated they fucked that up.

    18. Appropriate_Clue_877 on

      In the UK it’s not really a direct payment. The royal family were extremely privately rich historically (still are but not as), and at some point did a deal with the nation that they would give most of their assets to the country as long as they got paid a dividend from it, which is the crown estate.

      Imagine if Zuckerberg gave the country all his assets in return for a much smaller guaranteed annual payment, it’s like the 18th century version of that.

    24. Gullible_fool_99 on

      This does not tell the full story, of course.

      The money that is actually spent by the Treasury to support the Crown is a percentage of the amount of money that is paid into the Treasury by the Crown.

      In 2023/2024 the Crown raised £1.1b and received back a support grant of roughly 12% of that so yes, ‚the public‘ paid the Crown £147m but the Crown paid ‚the public‘ over £1b.

    25. Rockyshark6 on

      I can’t talk about the other monarchies, but Swedens money goes mainly to uphold old castles, nature reserves, and other spending towards the public and not to the monarch himself.

    27. lledaso on

      The remnants of the former German monarchies/nobility do get money too, though it’s all very intransparent, because it’s split up into many deals and trusts that were formed in the late 19th/early 20th century in the various German states/duchies/kingdoms etc. One example: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wittelsbacher_Ausgleichsfonds

      It’s not directly tax money that’s spent but rather income from buildings and lands, but in my opinion that’s not much better, because save for some residences all of that should be state-owned and all proceeds should go to the state.

    28. conrat4567 on

      I would like to see this for head of states, including pensions and other costs. I imagine it would be higher or near the same

    31. FredBGC on

      The real Swedish number is about half of what is reported here (96 million SEK). The budget for Kungahuset is divided in two parts, one which covers the Royal Court (so the Royal Family and the Kings role as head of state), and one which covers the maintenance of the castles and palaces formally managed by the Court. The latter would still have to be covered even if we were a republic.

    32. Tapeworm1979 on

      147m isn’t much. The UK royal family generates almost a billion in revenue from tourism, merchandise and tax from the petroleum companies providing fuel for flights to Epstein Island.

    33. PureCaramel5800 on

      This will be fun as always here on r/europe. Never really understood why some people here are so upset that some countries are monarchies. Why do you care if it’s not your country?

    35. Tman11S on

      All in all our Belgian monarchy isn’t that expensive in the grand scheme of things. Sure they cost a couple of million but you’ve got this great PR person you can send around the world and most of their expenses go to the maintenance of the palace and stuff anyway.

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