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    Schweizer Inferno-Bar-Besitzer geben tragischer „Kellnerin im Helm“ und jungem Personal die Schuld für „Blockierung des Ausgangs“


    Schweizer Inferno-Bar-Besitzer geben tragischer „Kellnerin im Helm“ und jungem Personal die Schuld für „Blockierung des Ausgangs“

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/swiss-inferno-bar-owners-place-blame-5HjdRN6_2/

    Von tylerthe-theatre

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    1. Frowedz on

      Tragedy happens, then the owners lawyer up and point fingers downward. That part is depressingly predictable.

    2. elderrion on

      You mean the owners mired in criminality that grabbed the till and ran during the fire? Those owners?

      The Italians were right to protest and summon the Swiss ambassador 

    3. crxsso_dssreer on

      Yeah, and the inflammable foam in the ceiling? the lack of emergency exit? just a minor detail hey… them damn wait staff, deciding to light candles on by their own volition… not at the demand of their manager at all…

    5. boolee2112 on

      They are the owners, they should have made sure that adequate staff training was in place along with the correct fire regulatory procedures.

    7. 0ttoChriek on

      Okay, let them blame their employees. Then tell them they will never get a licence to operate another hospitality venue.

    8. lordnacho666 on

      Not a good look trying to blame a dead person.

      End of the day, there are rules, and they weren’t followed, and the rules also say who is responsible if rules aren’t followed.

      I don’t think they had any malicious intent, but they didn’t follow the rules and now there are consequences.

    9. Blubbolo on

      – He renovated without permits.
      – He placed flammable stuffs in the ceiling.
      – Someone stopped every department, especially the fire department, from doing any kind of control for 5 years
      – He made the exit smaller, to get more tables in.
      – He (or told someone to do it) closed the emergency exit to stop people from going in and out on a 300 euros to enter night (witnesses said it was blocked).
      – His GF told the waitress to put on an helmet and do that shit (other waitresses said it).
      – He allowed 3** people to enter a place with a max limit of 1**.
      – His GF bailed with the register instead of coordinating the team.

      He got bailed by an „anonymous friend“ (200k x 2) and now talks shit.

    11. Mondai_May on

      Oh she died 🙁 since I read the news about this I was wondering what happened to her

    12. LuLMaster420 on

      Of course. When 40 people die, the best thing to do is blame the youngest staff member.
      Not fire safety violations, blocked exits, overcrowding, poor management, or corporate greed nope, it was the “waitress in the helmet.”

      What an absolutely pathetic deflection of responsibility.

      If you’re going to profit while letting people burn, at least have the guts to own up to it.

    13. morbihann on

      You hired them, you are responsible for their actions barring mal intent, which I doubt there was.

      If they lack training, its on you. If the bar layout didn’t correspond to safety standards, that is on you. You don’t get to own the place, make the shots and collect the benefits, while the workers bear the responsibilities.

    14. Elektron_Anbar on

      Putting aside of how morally despicable is pinning the blame on a dead waitress, it doesn’t even sound like a good tactic legally.

      In Italy at least, you as the owner/manager are legally responsible for any safety violation that your staff commits on the job.

    15. greenpowerman99 on

      I heard that the champagne fireworks were going on for years before the fire.

      If that’s true then someone told her to do it.

    16. Trumpswells on

      “Swiss law recognizes the principle of respondeat superior (vicarious liability). Employers are liable for damages caused by their employees in the performance of their work, unless the employer can prove they took reasonable care to prevent the damage.”

    17. Shirolicious on

      Classic case of blaming others and not take any responsibility for what happened.

      Regardless if employee A B or C did something. The point of having managers and owners is ultimately also their task and responsibility to manage things properly.

      So, owners are responsible for having the proper papers and documentation and stadc training and equipment etc. Providing a safe area.

      Manager responsible for the day to day operations and that things go according to plan and follow right procedures and protocols.

      And the employees just have to follow, but ultimately also have a responsibility towards all the guests.

      So, employees, manager and owners are all accountable to different degrees. But the higher up you go, the more accountable it goes.

      Unfortunately when tragedy happens, the fingers always point towards anyone else but themselves.

      I know who atleast is not responsible… the guests.

    19. LeroyoJenkins on

      Yeah, bullshit, get these two fuckers in jail (after a proper process). And let their buddies in the government join them as well!

    20. Webgardener on

      Damn, that article just keeps getting worse. His fire training to employees said to “Evacuate the customers, raise the alarm, and call the fire department,“ he said. „And of course, if they had time, use the fire extinguishers to put out the fire.“

      When told that one employee – referred to as L. – had told the enquiry that he had no idea where the extinguishers were kept, Jacques Moretti replied: „The staff has several shifts, and maybe I forgot to give this information to L., but it was going to be passed on at some point. Maybe I forgot.“ So it’s their fault, those darn employees didn’t put the fire out. Those families deserve to see these people face justice.

    22. FuzzBuzzer on

      The entire time I was reading this, I was thinking, “the Morettis sure do have a lot of excuses and deflections, yet seemingly zero remorse or accountability.”

      It struck me that they  were trying to place the blame on a dead girl half their age while also being the owners of the bar. They should have properly trained their staff. They should have followed proper procedures and protocols. They should have known better. 

      Then I read “ Jacques Moretti, an ex-pimp who has spent time in prison in France…”

      This isn’t a one off in terms of shady dealings with these folks. RIP to the victims. 

    23. Diacetyl-Morphin on

      The owners of the bar are the worst, i can’t understand why they got bail and could leave the prison, just another failure of the state here. It is pathetic how we handle this here.

      Now the bar owners blame the girl, but before this, they talked in the swiss media about how much affected they’d be because of her death, they claimed she was „like a daughter for them“ with a very great relationship. But this not true: Her family got public and talked about, they could also back up their words with text messages between the lady and owners of the bar.

      She never got a written contract, the owners tried to pay her as little money as possible and made her work more hours than allowed. She was about to leave the bar and even sue the owners in court just before the inferno happened.

    24. MomsTortellinis on

      This was such a hard and infuriating read, this part:

      „Video is said to exist showing Jessica Moretti escaping from the New Year fire with the cash register under her arm, while ignoring victims.“

      in particular says a lot about the owners. Blaming these youngsters for everything and not accepting responsibility when it was their building, they are the ones who put the flammable foam in the ceilings, made the door smaller etc. They blame the waitress who died, now that is convenient as she cannot defend herself, but why did they allow fireworks inside in the first place? She did it all the time, they claim, so they allowed fireworks inside and near the ceiling all the time. These owners are terrible and should go to jail for a long time.

    25. PaiouH on

      Do you remember how, two weeks ago, they claimed they wouldn’t back out and highlighted their solidarity with all their staff?

    26. Jealous_Tutor_5135 on

      Bar owner here.

      The series of small mistakes that led to this tragedy really hits home.

      1. An emergency exit that was able to lock

      2. Ceiling foam that wasn’t fire rated

      3. Overcrowding in the basement

      4. Poor training and careless fire extinguisher placement

      5. Of course the sparklers

      They were negligent. But it’s not a single, purposeful decision that says „I don’t care about fire risk“. Instead it’s many small decisions, some probably knowingly reckless others less so.

      People often think that fire code is unnecessarily strict, but they’re not seeing the bigger picture. Like the approach to putting out fire, the code is a strategic approach to a layered defense. Remove flammable materials, provide methods and training to fight fire, and clear exits in the case that it can’t be contained.

      Unserious implementation and bad luck caused all these defenses to fail. But if any one had held, those people would be alive today.

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