Die Han-Dynastie vor 2000 Jahren markierte Chinas erste Periode groß angelegter Expansion und Eroberung.
Während Vietnam nicht mehr unter chinesischer Herrschaft steht, herrschten die Chinesen fast 1000 Jahre lang direkt über die Region, von der Han- bis zur Ming-Dynastie. (111 v. Chr.–939 n. Chr., 1407–1428 n. Chr.）(Direkte Herrschaft, kein Tributstaat oder Vasallenstaat)
Vietnam unter chinesischer Herrschaft – Wikipedia
Die schweren Bürgerkriege der Fünf-Dynastien- und Zehn-Königreiche-Zeit führten zur Unabhängigkeit der Region und zur Bildung eines eigenen Nationalbewusstseins.
Interessanterweise eroberten die Vietnamesen nach der Befreiung von der chinesischen Herrschaft auch selbständig einige Gebiete (heutiges Südvietnam, das zunächst zum Khmer-Reich gehörte).
Von Wise-Pineapple-4190
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Vietnamese people have complex feelings towards the Chinese;
On the one hand, much of their culture originates from China (the Chinese cultural sphere);
On the other hand, their history textbooks portray the Chinese as robbers and invaders for thousands of years.
This is actually quite normal. After independence, they needed their own national narrative and had to oppose China; otherwise, their independence would have no meaning.
I thought China sd they weren’t imperialist?
Is China an Imperialist Power?
As a Chinese history enthusiast and a Chinese person,
I can only say with certainty that for most of history, the Chinese were indeed imperialists.
The Han Dynasty expanded China’s territory from 2.2 million square kilometers to its peak of 6.5 million square kilometers, and the Tang Dynasty at its peak expanded it to 12.3 million square kilometers.
Most Chinese people still feel proud and honored by these two dynasties.
Modern China is perhaps the most moderate period in history…
This is not an exaggeration (ancient Chinese dynasties were extremely domineering and self-centered).
„China““中国“” in Chinese means „Central Empire,“ even if you understand its meaning from the name alone.
The Han, Tang, and Ming dynasties all had precedents of directly capturing foreign monarchs or khans and bringing them to the Chinese capital for public display.
Then they went and destroyed Champa in return and wiped out the balamons 🤦♂️
„directly ruled“ are you sure about that?
Oh, we’re moving our PRC propaganda to Vietnam now??
I also noticed that these maps disagree with the other ones you posted over in your propaganda post about korea – https://old.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1qnc4o3/chinas_first_true_colonial_rule_on_the_korean/. Not particularly surprising, but still sad to see someone so desperate.
Are you also going to tell the vietnamese that they used chinese so therefore they were colonized?
Same cheap propaganda, map after map trying to persuade the world of the Chinese preeminence over … everyone in the world. Vietnam, in spite of the might of the Chinese Army, gave a dire lesson to Deng’s hegemonic attempt in 1979. Chinese troops , confronted to the fierce and heroic resistance, were forced to flee back beyond borders. All the historical digressions by our frantic pineapple won’t change that.