Wut über neuen „Keine Kinder“-Bereich in französischen Zügen

These laws would not be necessary if parents controlled their kids and taught them early how to behave in public spaces.

Litteraly no fury. It happens every time some service offers a ~calm (hence mostly childfree) segment. In that case, „no kids under 12 in business class“. It’s fine. You’ll find people complaining there’s no daycare at the whorehouse anyway.

Wow hope DB follow. I mean the family sections already help but I would love car 28 or 29 to be kid free.

No kids and no anything on loudspeaker anywhere please! 

I for one hate sitting near noisy kids where the parent can’t be bother to do any parenting, or at least give the kid some headphones so we don’t all have to listen to their show.

This is an excellent idea that needs rolling out here (my route doesn’t have a quiet carriage)

I’m furious no airline will do „no kids“ flights.

I’d rather have a compartment without parents who don’t care what their kids are doing.

Comment section people are insanely bitter about this, damn.

As a father of 2 kids I’m 100% ok with that. I know kids can be annoying. In Poland intercity trains have a no-noise section and I always choose it when traveling alone. There also also travel with kids parts (too little on my opinion) and try to choose these when with kids. We all pay and want to travel in as much comfort as we can

Sounds like a great idea to me. I’ve been in quiet compartments where some idiot parent just sits down with their noisy child. I say something like „excuse me, this is a quiet compartment“. They get all angry at me „well I’ll just tell my eight year old to not talk then??“ It’s like… just sit somewhere else. I don’t call it out if the train is too busy to find other seats, obviously. I also specifically address the parent, it’s their responsibility. Some people just refuse to let the comfort of others inconvenience them for even a second, and these assholes need to be taught that the world doesn’t revolve around them.

Same with people doing lengthy phone calls on the train. „Hi, sorry, I’m on the train so I can’t talk right now. I’ll call you back later.“ Not that fucking hard, I think.

In Denmark we have “family zones” in regional trains. More space for prams and a hint for everyone else to stay away if you dont like noise.

This is a non-issue. I think some sections should be for families, some should be no-child sections.

A lot of people want quiet because chances are they are commuting and have just left a household with kids to go to work. They need the calm to mentally prepare for work. Or they have sensory issues that children risk exacerbating.

There should also be family only sections so families get a space to go where the adults in there have a shared understanding that kids are tiny engines of chaos, and no matter how well you’re trying to raise them, they get out of control. Not a single parent wants to be the subject of some edgelord’s next post to childfree because they just happened to encounter their child on a bad day and lack even a baseline level of empathy or understanding that children have just as much a right to be in society as they do.

This is one of those issues where keeping things separate is just the better, more practical idea.

This wouldn’t be a necessary thing if kids weren’t so insanely loud and obnoxious.

Yeah, yeah I know, „they’re kids!“ – but I’m sure I’m not the only one with parents who taught us to tone it down a bit in public spaces, and to not be rude to strangers. You never caught us jumping on seats or kicking the back of seats where people are sitting.

There are quiet areas in the first place for cars. But it’s not enforced. The difference if you are enjoying a quiet ride or an insufferable time is just pure luck. Earplug is mandatory anyway in most public spaces because people have too often the main character syndrome.

Don’t do no kids, do silent car, and actually enforce this

Why should kids of all people face discrimination based on a significant amount of bad apples around them?

OK, I want a no boomer car, then, old people are more often coughing without a mask on. And a no Italians car, because its a generally louder society than my boring place of living. I can find a lot of obnoxious behavior highly correlated with specific demographics, to an extent that both right- and left-wingers would downvote me to oblivion, if I call them out, at once.

But, guess what, discriminating elderly and foreigners like that is generally frowned upon. And the same should be the case for kids, IMHO.

Alternatively: Positive discrimination. Family cars and force families to use them until full. If full, well, it is what it is, train is no private ride.

This again shows the true sentiment about train travel – it’s only for the poor or weekend travel.

Or, of course, if your employer needs to get a bit greener for PR.

It used to be called “first class”.

Is this the same as the dogging section or is there a separate one for that as well?

I am very pro this as a mother who travels with her toddler because then any complaints about normal kid behaviour can be met with “shoulda bought the adults only tickets”. I wish we had flights and trains with kids sections, I’d pay extra for a train with a play area.

I said it many times, but I am willing to pay extra for flights with no kids too. Every transport method should have a no kids option.

We have a similar „shut the fuck up“ section in Austria, kids are allowed but must behave (they normally behave better than a lot of adults)

Where do I book?

Great! Can we have this on airplanes as well?