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    „Der vierte Verfassungszusatz dient buchstäblich dazu, dies zu verhindern“: Memo behauptet, dass ICE ohne gerichtliche Genehmigung gewaltsam in Häuser eindringen kann


    „Der vierte Verfassungszusatz dient buchstäblich dazu, dies zu verhindern“: Memo behauptet, dass ICE ohne gerichtliche Genehmigung gewaltsam in Häuser eindringen kann

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    2. thieh on

      From the text of the constitution:

      >The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[^([a])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#cite_note-2) against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

      All they are doing is to make that the norm so it is reasonable to expect that to be the case.

    3. ianrl337 on

      The 4th is to prevent this from happening, the 2nd is to be sure this doesn’t happen.

    4. TychoBrohe on

      Couldn’t be clearer. 
      But does constitutionality matter to them? Of course not. Will any other branch enforce a check and balance? Also no. 

    7. Area51_Spurs on

      We’re five minutes away from being required to give quarter to these redcoat fucks with a full English breakfast in the morning.

    8. jasandliz on

      Do not sell out your hard earned Liberty in the name of rounding up criminals. Your rights as an American are being infringed.

      if you haven’t seen this, its huge, LE calling out ICE on constitutional issues. It would be front page news if it wasn’t for nuking Greenland: SHARE IT EVERYWHERE: [Brooklyn Park Police Chief Mark Bruley: „We’re hearing people being stopped with no cause & being demanded to show paperwork to determine if they’re here legally. We started hearing from our police officers the same complaints. Every one of these individuals is a person of color…it has to stop“ : ](https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1qib372/brooklyn_park_police_chief_mark_bruley_were/)r/minnesota 

      Door to Door raids by masked federal agents, detention and assault on law abiding citizens – without cause. Pepper spraying peaceful protesters? AYFKM? This is a bipartisan nightmare.

      If your’re not on r/minnesota get on it

      Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.“ – Ben Franklin

    9. Yokelocal on

      They are most certainly not legally allowed to do this. But that doesn’t mean they won’t do so anyway and harm you in the process.
      They are lawless thugs, just like all Republicans.

    11. Vaderof4 on

      Who cares what a federal agency interprets the law to be? The Supreme Court gutted Chevron deference which gave federal agencies deference in their interpretation of law. You see when it was agencies like the EPA that was bad for them to make interpretive decisions. But I guess if it’s DHS giving ICE a free pass then shoot go get em partner.

    12. myttheu on

      Nothing says freedom and rule of law more than “We are allowed to do whatever we want because of a secret internal memo.”

    13. Ok-disaster2022 on

      It’s very simple: state police agencies should be required to go arrest all ice agents for breaking the 4th amendment and aiding and abetting the 4th amendment. Then when the ice agents inevitably resist and hit the state police charge them with assaulting a police officer in the conduct of his duties, resisting arrest, assault with a deadly weapon. 

      They should go arrest them with no knock warrants at the local hotels while they sleep as they pose a flight risk: Nazis are always cowards in small numbers 

    14. zaccus on

      Y’all realize why the colonists were so touchy about the government being in their homes? Y’all realize what was happening to them?

      There are certain things that are considered normal and natural for armed troops to do to civilians.

    15. Fatal_Syntax_Error on

      “I’m not wearing a mask! I have rights!”

      “Just obey their orders!”

      Same people

    17. Persea_americana on

      They’re going to sacrifice some ICE agents to the 2nd amendment and then try to enact martial law. I mean come on, you start breaking into houses in America, you’re going to encounter some firearms.

    18. SinglecoilsFTW on

      republicans have twisted the second amendment to be something the founders would find unrecognizable yet this clear, unambiguous text is proving to be another brain buster

    20. Biomage_1 on

      Wait until they start doing the same for ballots in November. It’s going to happen.

    22. P100PILOTEN2000 on

      Democrat voters should learn to read laws and their exceptions. Lol.

    23. DanteChurch on

      This passed a few years ago. If you live within 100 miles of the country border or an international airport you have 0 accessibility to the 4th amendment if it is a „matter of national security“ which all immigration falls under.

      This has been known for about 7 years as „the plan“ and we’ve built over 80 urban warfare training facilities for exactly this. The ACAB crowd has been screaming this for years and there’s been numerous high profile protester deaths linked to these cop cities.

    24. TiredOfBeingTired28 on

      Only if „ANY FUCKING ONE“ with power actual enforces anything but would seem no one from jo bob cop to highest court think the law applies anywhere but punish the dirty non red team.

    25. TDVapermann on

      My second amendment authorizes use of a steel slug loaded 12 gauge.

      Castle laws make it so I can really enjoy my freedoms.

      Steel shot and dragons breath is a great weapon.

    26. AEternal1 on

      Almost like the 2nd ammendment exists to resist such flagrant violations of the common sense expected rule of the land🤷

    29. Specialist_Jump5476 on

      Just for reference a memo is basically an internal company email.

    30. DesertTrailsFox on

      I convinced my grandma a while back that ICE was acting illegally here, but all it changed was that she believes that it is „unfortunate that violating the constitution has become necessary to enforce immigration“ because there is „no other way“.

    31. UltraMegaFauna on

      The constitution isn’t worth shit now. We need an entirely new system of government: one run by the working people not the billionaires.

    32. maybeinoregon on

      You better check a list of who is exactly behind the doors of the places you plan on entering.

      All I know is, there are a lot of folks that have planned their entire life for this kind of scenario.

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