Of course it is. Not saying you don’t need to be strong at some level but the pro-war approach has effectively ended NATO as it was and the western world order.
P319 on
Im old enough to remember when people ridiculed her for saying the US couldn’t be trusted.
hmmm_ on
The UN is now irrelevant. But good to see that she at least understands the risks for small countries like us in this new environment. Hopefully herself and everyone else in Government has watched Carneys speech, it was superb.
Minimum_Holiday_5611 on
when was UN relevant?
MiamiBoi91 on
Can you imagine an alternative universe where Conor McGregor got the nominations required to get on the ballot and won the presidency
shaadyscientist on
The Irish left wanted an end to globalisation. Welcome to a de-globalised world where everyone is out for themselves. Be careful what you wish for!
Hopeful-Remote9725 on
This line is interesting in the context of the debate over defence spending;
‚When this becomes the logic of international relations, language no longer protects the vulnerable, it simply records their fate.‘
I think we need to be a bit sensible over what threats might eventuate over the next 30-40 years because other neutral countries spend when we talk a good game. We might want to avoid becoming vulnerable ourselves. I never want to Irish troops deployed overseas outside the very limited circumstances it happens now, but we do have to consider what compromises might be necessary to be able to protect ourselves. Not project power; solely to defend our own territory.
jdckelly on
And we have no might just „soft power“ which is utterly meaningless. World is retuning to a multi polar one with spheres of influence and Europe let alone ireland are just pieces on the board
sureyouknowurself on
This has and will always be the case. Unless you have nukes.
ClashOfTheAsh on
„The consequences of ‚might is right‘ are now crystal clear before our eyes. Countries can be invaded at will, or threatened with invasion, and the UN organisations doing invaluable work in extremely dangerous locations can be demolished on a whim.“
„When this becomes the logic of international relations, language no longer protects the vulnerable, it simply records their fate.“
Why do I feel like this isn’t her acknowledging that she was/is wrong to criticise fellow EU members for trying to rearm, and for advocating for retention of the triple lock (where we effectively cede control of our military to the US, Russia and China)?
Doggylife1379 on
„Might is right“ is, was and always will be the how the world works. Even in whatever communist utopia which I have no doubt some are imagining, whoever has the most might will have to police this utopia.
People keep thinking countries work like people. You trust friends because they’re a friend, you don’t just „trust“ allies because they’re an ally. You trust an ally because your interests align with their interests
Demonbaby_Wot on
Has the Pres ever said russia cant be trusted? I hope so.
Phoenix_Kerman on
no. this is the consequence of contribuing nothing in defence for decades and having a continent rely on one country’s might for their own rights.
D-dog92 on
are the consequences actually clear to her though? The consequences for defenseless countries like Ireland are that we need an independent military deterrent and can longer rely on allies who may turn on us like Trump just turned on Denmark.
„might makes right“ never went away. There were just a few decades where countries in Europe could pretend it did.
SeriousPhrase on
And that means building our own might
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Of course it is. Not saying you don’t need to be strong at some level but the pro-war approach has effectively ended NATO as it was and the western world order.
Im old enough to remember when people ridiculed her for saying the US couldn’t be trusted.
The UN is now irrelevant. But good to see that she at least understands the risks for small countries like us in this new environment. Hopefully herself and everyone else in Government has watched Carneys speech, it was superb.
when was UN relevant?
Can you imagine an alternative universe where Conor McGregor got the nominations required to get on the ballot and won the presidency
The Irish left wanted an end to globalisation. Welcome to a de-globalised world where everyone is out for themselves. Be careful what you wish for!
This line is interesting in the context of the debate over defence spending;
‚When this becomes the logic of international relations, language no longer protects the vulnerable, it simply records their fate.‘
I think we need to be a bit sensible over what threats might eventuate over the next 30-40 years because other neutral countries spend when we talk a good game. We might want to avoid becoming vulnerable ourselves. I never want to Irish troops deployed overseas outside the very limited circumstances it happens now, but we do have to consider what compromises might be necessary to be able to protect ourselves. Not project power; solely to defend our own territory.
And we have no might just „soft power“ which is utterly meaningless. World is retuning to a multi polar one with spheres of influence and Europe let alone ireland are just pieces on the board
This has and will always be the case. Unless you have nukes.
„The consequences of ‚might is right‘ are now crystal clear before our eyes. Countries can be invaded at will, or threatened with invasion, and the UN organisations doing invaluable work in extremely dangerous locations can be demolished on a whim.“
„When this becomes the logic of international relations, language no longer protects the vulnerable, it simply records their fate.“
Why do I feel like this isn’t her acknowledging that she was/is wrong to criticise fellow EU members for trying to rearm, and for advocating for retention of the triple lock (where we effectively cede control of our military to the US, Russia and China)?
„Might is right“ is, was and always will be the how the world works. Even in whatever communist utopia which I have no doubt some are imagining, whoever has the most might will have to police this utopia.
People keep thinking countries work like people. You trust friends because they’re a friend, you don’t just „trust“ allies because they’re an ally. You trust an ally because your interests align with their interests
Has the Pres ever said russia cant be trusted? I hope so.
no. this is the consequence of contribuing nothing in defence for decades and having a continent rely on one country’s might for their own rights.
are the consequences actually clear to her though? The consequences for defenseless countries like Ireland are that we need an independent military deterrent and can longer rely on allies who may turn on us like Trump just turned on Denmark.
„might makes right“ never went away. There were just a few decades where countries in Europe could pretend it did.
And that means building our own might