It is a very complex issue but imo the main reason is cultural. Children’s place hasn’t caught up in the 21st century. You’re expected to be a helicopter parent while both parents work minimum 40 hours a week. It wasn’t like this before. Not even that long ago parent’s lives weren’t expected to be shaped around their kids. Genuinely wouldn’t be surprised to see childcare become something like healthcare in America where it’s integrated with your job. Getting a bit tired of the blame billionaires for everything. There is a lot they are to be blamed for but it is becoming the lazy accusation.
IceKey7990 on
Rawdog for the shareholders pleb!
Elegant_Spring2223 on
Bilo je prije trideset godina riječ da će roboti zamijeniti radnike i da će radnici biti višak.
misterbondpt on
How many kids per $100.000 per year should one have? 😂 Billionaires are obviously the ones not reaching the minimums
Bango-TSW on
You can tell that educational standards are dropping when rather than explain in depth about how the post 1970s world economic system & asset price inflation has resulted in both parents need to work in order to afford the home that in the 60s just one breadwinner was able to, just blame it on „billionaires“.
dannnnac on
There are 8 or 9 billion people. We don’t need more and things were fine and would be fine with much less.
If you had to design a system that had finite resources and the best you could come up with is a system that is dependent on exponential growth of the things that consume those resources you would not be very bright.
dieguix3d on
Psychopaths
Dave_Is_Useless on
Of course they want more people to use as wage slaves.
Spokraket on
Billionaires are a problem.
Responsible_Trifle15 on
Chicken and egg problem
Emergency_Link7328 on
The greatest threat to humankind is the billionaires.
secomano on
who’s stopping them from having more babies?
fa136 on
We will probably be replaced by robots and AI later on, so why would he want to boost the birth rate?
PhilosopherEmpty1920 on
In a developped economy the children are viewed more as consumption „goods“ than labour assets.
A kid’s upbringing is literally connected to everything… even if you finished with everything at an inheretence standpoint having 3 or more kids leave them with less inheretence and assets that are in general difficult to break down to pieces (real estate).
The ones reaping the benefits are of course companies (more consumers, employees, clients) and the goverment (more workforce, taxpayers).
So the question is why a person should face significantly in time, money, emotional complexity, sentimental complications when it can „acquire“ a similar emotion with 2 or less offsprings.
Ardyn_the_Usurper on
slaves, they want more slaves.
Sneaky_Squirreel on
„Billionaires demand more babies (slaves) so that their properties won’t devalue over time, will have larger pool of people to pull workers on barely livable wage from and more consumers to finance their shit“. Truly an amazing motivation to have kids.
redditistheway on
The article is spot on.
butwhywedothis on
Can we replace billionaires with AI?
4n0m4l7 on
Nobody in their right mind should get kids in this day and age…
TheZermanator on
I demand fewer billionaires.
marmakoide on
How they can stay rich if the pool of peones shrinks ? How techfeodalism can happen if there are no serfs ?
Chester_roaster on
„Billionaires“ aren’t making parenthood unaffordable and our grandparents raised their kids with far less material security than we have.
snakeoildriller on
Billionaire logic: If you have worry about the cost of parenthood you’re not breeding material.
WGSMA on
Every country with high QoL has lower birth rates
I’ve never been convinced you can move the needle materially to boost birth rates by making it more affordable.
Asimb0mb on
As long as both partners have to work 40 hours per week to even be able to stay financially afloat, they’re not gonna have kids. Too expensive and no time for kids. Maybe billionaires need to find out a solution to this problem instead of just complaining about it.
They could start by significantly raising wages, so that more people can afford to work less hours.
BrilliantExternal236 on
This is class war, EAT THE RICH AND FEED THE POOR
CrispsInTabascoSauce on
Billionaires can breed themselves. Also, since when do we need more people when AGI is just around the corner and there will be no jobs for us peasants?
Also, cost of living and stagnant wages need to be addressed before we even begin this conversation.
lieuwestra on
The painful part of course is the fact that money isn’t why people aren’t having more babies. Go ask someone who has 1 kid why they don’t have 2. Their answer is practically always going to be about bad policy, not a direct lack of money. Sure food and diapers are expensive, but for most not prohibitively so.
It’s always something else capitalism has destroyed on the way, like a lack of a social fabric, the need to be a 24h helicopter parent, availability of suitable housing, childcare, inflexible working hours, I bet you can think of a few more.
But these billionaires don’t want to talk about that either. Because all those things require a narrative that the government can actually do good things. And when people trust the government they are willing to go along with higher taxes, including for the rich.
YF422 on
Honestly the ultimate problem is imbalanced wealth distribution. Lets be honest many companies gave pay rises for „efficiency“ over the years but then turn around and demand more from people. Same fuckers are the ones wanting people forced back to offices despite remote working being better for workers etc.
Bottom line is that Vulture Capitalism is enshittifying everything and one of those consequences is a collapse in Birth Rates. Only way I can see things changing is if they change things in earnest so women can have a career as well as children without sacrificing the former (remote working would be a definite plus for women while pregnant imo) while men arent chained to their jobs all day long with flexible hours and have more free time to help women. The crux of the issue is they built a system where couples ultimately havent got enough time or energy for work and child rearing and many sacrifice children as a result.
IgorGirkinStrelkov2 on
It’s not that parenthood is unaffordable. It’s that it requires slightly lowering your standard of living and no one wants to do it due to selfishness.
h0neanias on
„Demand“? I demand their heads.
PupScent on
We are living in a science fiction movie.
DavidlikesPeace on
They could each fund free childcare and healthcare, at least in their own city. That could collectively make a massive difference.
But they won’t. They’d rather keep robbing us than fixing things
MeatMechAstronaut on
Parenthood is getting unaffordable because more and more wealth is being held by billionaires. Seriously, if I was a billionaire I would either give most of it away or keep what I have but give away ALL further earnings for free. For a human being to live comfortably requires a fraction of a fraction of what these few people have. They are the flaw of capitalism, the cancer of the system, feeding on its body and preventing healthy growth of the rest. But who’s gonna stop them? Only healthy democracies could. But Russia is already fascist, US is quickly becoming fascist, China is a dictatorship, India more or less as well. Who’s left? EU, Australia and a few other countries here and there. Billionaires are winning. Question is what world will we live in after they finally do. I don’t think it’s going to be pretty for the average, poor, free-thinking person. It’s going to be a dystopian, digital feudalism with an ultra rich, all powerful ruling class.
vocalfreesia on
Do they? They don’t believe they’ll need workers in the future, it’ll all be automated. So why exactly do they want hordes of destitute, unemployed, homeless people who can’t buy anything they produce? What’s the point?
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The foxes want more chickens?
Meat sacks for profits
It is a very complex issue but imo the main reason is cultural. Children’s place hasn’t caught up in the 21st century. You’re expected to be a helicopter parent while both parents work minimum 40 hours a week. It wasn’t like this before. Not even that long ago parent’s lives weren’t expected to be shaped around their kids. Genuinely wouldn’t be surprised to see childcare become something like healthcare in America where it’s integrated with your job. Getting a bit tired of the blame billionaires for everything. There is a lot they are to be blamed for but it is becoming the lazy accusation.
Rawdog for the shareholders pleb!
Bilo je prije trideset godina riječ da će roboti zamijeniti radnike i da će radnici biti višak.
How many kids per $100.000 per year should one have? 😂 Billionaires are obviously the ones not reaching the minimums
You can tell that educational standards are dropping when rather than explain in depth about how the post 1970s world economic system & asset price inflation has resulted in both parents need to work in order to afford the home that in the 60s just one breadwinner was able to, just blame it on „billionaires“.
There are 8 or 9 billion people. We don’t need more and things were fine and would be fine with much less.
If you had to design a system that had finite resources and the best you could come up with is a system that is dependent on exponential growth of the things that consume those resources you would not be very bright.
Psychopaths
Of course they want more people to use as wage slaves.
Billionaires are a problem.
Chicken and egg problem
The greatest threat to humankind is the billionaires.
who’s stopping them from having more babies?
We will probably be replaced by robots and AI later on, so why would he want to boost the birth rate?
In a developped economy the children are viewed more as consumption „goods“ than labour assets.
A kid’s upbringing is literally connected to everything… even if you finished with everything at an inheretence standpoint having 3 or more kids leave them with less inheretence and assets that are in general difficult to break down to pieces (real estate).
The ones reaping the benefits are of course companies (more consumers, employees, clients) and the goverment (more workforce, taxpayers).
So the question is why a person should face significantly in time, money, emotional complexity, sentimental complications when it can „acquire“ a similar emotion with 2 or less offsprings.
slaves, they want more slaves.
„Billionaires demand more babies (slaves) so that their properties won’t devalue over time, will have larger pool of people to pull workers on barely livable wage from and more consumers to finance their shit“. Truly an amazing motivation to have kids.
The article is spot on.
Can we replace billionaires with AI?
Nobody in their right mind should get kids in this day and age…
I demand fewer billionaires.
How they can stay rich if the pool of peones shrinks ? How techfeodalism can happen if there are no serfs ?
„Billionaires“ aren’t making parenthood unaffordable and our grandparents raised their kids with far less material security than we have.
Billionaire logic: If you have worry about the cost of parenthood you’re not breeding material.
Every country with high QoL has lower birth rates
I’ve never been convinced you can move the needle materially to boost birth rates by making it more affordable.
As long as both partners have to work 40 hours per week to even be able to stay financially afloat, they’re not gonna have kids. Too expensive and no time for kids. Maybe billionaires need to find out a solution to this problem instead of just complaining about it.
They could start by significantly raising wages, so that more people can afford to work less hours.
This is class war, EAT THE RICH AND FEED THE POOR
Billionaires can breed themselves. Also, since when do we need more people when AGI is just around the corner and there will be no jobs for us peasants?
Also, cost of living and stagnant wages need to be addressed before we even begin this conversation.
The painful part of course is the fact that money isn’t why people aren’t having more babies. Go ask someone who has 1 kid why they don’t have 2. Their answer is practically always going to be about bad policy, not a direct lack of money. Sure food and diapers are expensive, but for most not prohibitively so.
It’s always something else capitalism has destroyed on the way, like a lack of a social fabric, the need to be a 24h helicopter parent, availability of suitable housing, childcare, inflexible working hours, I bet you can think of a few more.
But these billionaires don’t want to talk about that either. Because all those things require a narrative that the government can actually do good things. And when people trust the government they are willing to go along with higher taxes, including for the rich.
Honestly the ultimate problem is imbalanced wealth distribution. Lets be honest many companies gave pay rises for „efficiency“ over the years but then turn around and demand more from people. Same fuckers are the ones wanting people forced back to offices despite remote working being better for workers etc.
Bottom line is that Vulture Capitalism is enshittifying everything and one of those consequences is a collapse in Birth Rates. Only way I can see things changing is if they change things in earnest so women can have a career as well as children without sacrificing the former (remote working would be a definite plus for women while pregnant imo) while men arent chained to their jobs all day long with flexible hours and have more free time to help women. The crux of the issue is they built a system where couples ultimately havent got enough time or energy for work and child rearing and many sacrifice children as a result.
It’s not that parenthood is unaffordable. It’s that it requires slightly lowering your standard of living and no one wants to do it due to selfishness.
„Demand“? I demand their heads.
We are living in a science fiction movie.
They could each fund free childcare and healthcare, at least in their own city. That could collectively make a massive difference.
But they won’t. They’d rather keep robbing us than fixing things
Parenthood is getting unaffordable because more and more wealth is being held by billionaires. Seriously, if I was a billionaire I would either give most of it away or keep what I have but give away ALL further earnings for free. For a human being to live comfortably requires a fraction of a fraction of what these few people have. They are the flaw of capitalism, the cancer of the system, feeding on its body and preventing healthy growth of the rest. But who’s gonna stop them? Only healthy democracies could. But Russia is already fascist, US is quickly becoming fascist, China is a dictatorship, India more or less as well. Who’s left? EU, Australia and a few other countries here and there. Billionaires are winning. Question is what world will we live in after they finally do. I don’t think it’s going to be pretty for the average, poor, free-thinking person. It’s going to be a dystopian, digital feudalism with an ultra rich, all powerful ruling class.
Do they? They don’t believe they’ll need workers in the future, it’ll all be automated. So why exactly do they want hordes of destitute, unemployed, homeless people who can’t buy anything they produce? What’s the point?
Destroy every Dollar