Dieses Bild stellte Grönland für mich in den klarsten Kontext. Ich verstehe seine Größe im Vergleich zu seinen Nachbarn und seine globale strategische Positionierung besser.
Canada should take over Groenland because they are clearly more at risk.
/s <— have to add that because some people are idiots enough to take my comments as face value.
natrstdy on
>its global strategic positioning
what?
According-Try3201 on
as there are bases and as it’s nato covered it’s easily protected enough
nygdan on
I’ve noticed that the “we need Greenland” people are mostly dolts who never looked at a map before.
They only just now learned where it is and that the earth isn’t flat like on a regular map, but still haven’t learned what NATO is.
Sea-Seesaw-8699 on
Trumps friend Ron Lauder of Estée Lauder billions had been buying up land for years, now they want it all
Ok_Bass94 on
Not a good representation of it’s size since this projection quickly reduces the size of things further away from the pole.
damutecebu on
Trump wants Greenland because of its natural resources, not because of its strategic location.
JohnnieTango on
Frankly, I have a hard time thinking of a less strategic piece of land in the North Atlantic region. It has few developed resources (and extracting them will be difficult and expensive), not many people, little infrastructure, and it’s not near anything particularly contentious. And yeah, it has some value as a radar base site, but we could do similar things from northeastern Canada and as for „monitoring the GIUK gap,“ well, Iceland would do just as well, probably better.
It is sad when world geopolitics are driven in no small part by the whims of Donald Trump, who best as I can tell saw a big chunk of land on some Mercator map and thought „wouldn’t it be cool if I was able to get that for the US and color it in <whatever color the US was on his childhood Mercator projection map, probably green>“
CuriousIllustrator11 on
Might also teach the MAGA crowd that what they call ”just in our back yard” is actually closer to Denmark (as well as a number of European countries) than it is to the US.
beastwood6 on
Now do a satellite view.
Its 80% glacier for starters, so only twenty percent of that island is actually usable land with most of the fabled resources being buried under the 80%.
We already have a military presence there so it already maximally serves our defense interests.
And if the 80% melts and becomes 75% and some more resources become profitable for extraction, then American companies are the only ones with the know-how, tech, capital, and risk appetite that will be able to extract them. And Greenlanders will be happy to let them come in and share in the wealth generation.
Its morally repugnant and it’s pragmatically idiotic to pursue full ownership of a chunk of ice with 50k people that you are already getting maximum use out of.
ThunderousOrgasm on
The mineral wealth is not a thing. It’s buried under permafrost. We do not have the ability to get it out without spending 17-18x more on extraction than the minerals are worth. It’s a massive red herring.
Greenland minerals are about as useful to humanity as the asteroid belts minerals are. And would take the same amount of money to start extracting lol.
Bulky_Ad_3608 on
The United States already has a treaty which allows it full access for defense purposes. This is pure vanity for Trump. It’s like the Nobel Prize. He just wants it to make his pathetic self feel better.
MazdaMovin on
The more people learn what the world looks like on a globe, the better. The more Americans just ask Greenland to be a partner in defense the better. They are a NATO partner. They are already willing and committed to help. No need for bullying and demands. Spend that energy, anger and resources instead on helping Ukraine defeat Russia and push them back. They are the enemy. This would be far more effective that posturing in Greenland. Having Ukraine as a NATO member would be telling and showing Russia that you really mean business. It would put the NATO threat 800kms (550 miles) from Putin’s doorstep. He will fear that more than quibbling over Greenland.
TreesintheDark on
I guess if nothing else, and they piss off Denmark enough that they tell them to get out, they can always ask Canada to put a base in their far north…!
Oh…
RYPIIE2006 on
the usa already has access to greenland, trump is just a whiny baby who wants to stroke his ego by increasing the size of his hellhole, while he runs it into the ground
Sidabaal on
Literally just saying anything to divert the news away from the epstien files
New-Friend7758 on
Did u realise the neighbourship between Russia and Alaska? There is another country: Canada, which is also a NATO’s member. As Greenland=Denmark=NATO. Where is the problem? Do they hide the Epstein files within the ice of Greenland?
pyratemime on
Good map.
One thing I would add as a point of reference is Candian Forces station Alert in northern Canada. It is part of the arctic basing structure and relies heavily on Piffituk for resupply during the summer.
Anything happening in Greenland and its impact on Piffituk directly impacts Alert.
ShinHayato on
If only it was protected by a group of allied countries in the North Atlantic.
Maybe there could be some sort of treaty to help defend it
Rare_Opportunity2419 on
Trump doesn’t want Greenland for strategic reasons nor for its resources.
He wants Greenland because it’s big and looks even bigger on a Mercator projection map. It’s literally because he likes the size and doesn’t like being told no.
All the other explanations are just excuses and others trying to sanewash Trump’s lunacy.
gildog6 on
Poland served as an excellent strategic position for the Nazi’s too
PurpleRoman on
I think they’re anticipating climate change making it more livable and usable
B1G_D11CK_R111CK_69 on
Does Greenland help protect America’s boats? Yes, help control GIUK.
shieldwolfchz on
No, I watched Fox, and they showed how huge Greenland is, like the same size as the USA. That map is commie lies.
No-Lunch4249 on
The GIUK Gap is referenced in the map here but not really explained. Maybe it was in the text of the article but I’ll toss it out there:
The GIUK gap is the series of somewhat narrow sea lanes between Greenland, Iceland, and the UK. It was one of the most important places in the world for NATO’s naval strategy during the cold war. NATO’s philosophy was to control these passages with air and naval bases in Greenland, Iceland, and Scotland to limit Soviet naval movement out of the North Sea.
It is definitely a very strategic place *that NATO already controls*
Ok-Elk-1615 on
Did an ai write that title
pi4katimaterina on
he’s gonna do it. he’ll take it, mark my words. strategic positioning and mineral wealth are both secondary factors. the symbolic power of expanding US territory, on the 250th anniversary of the declaration of independence, for a guy like him, is immeasurable. it will cement his name in history books for all time. y’all don’t know it yet, but greenland will be american some day soon. anything and everything else trump does before or after that will be completely irrelevant – he’ll go down in history as the POTUS who acquired greenland.
Serputer79 on
It’s also a distraction from his ineptness handling the tariffs & economy, his grift of oil $ deposited in Qatar, Netanyahu genocide in Gaza and West Bank and attempts to cancel mid-term elections
punk_in_your_phone on
Putin wants Trump to anger our NATO allies so much that they kick us out of Greenland.
Nonefunctionalperson on
Look im rather conservative but this is absolutely fucking retarded. The US Gov needs to leave of nations the fuck alone. Ive already been to Middle East and that shit sucked eggs…
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Canada should take over Groenland because they are clearly more at risk.
/s <— have to add that because some people are idiots enough to take my comments as face value.
>its global strategic positioning
what?
as there are bases and as it’s nato covered it’s easily protected enough
I’ve noticed that the “we need Greenland” people are mostly dolts who never looked at a map before.
They only just now learned where it is and that the earth isn’t flat like on a regular map, but still haven’t learned what NATO is.
Trumps friend Ron Lauder of Estée Lauder billions had been buying up land for years, now they want it all
Not a good representation of it’s size since this projection quickly reduces the size of things further away from the pole.
Trump wants Greenland because of its natural resources, not because of its strategic location.
Frankly, I have a hard time thinking of a less strategic piece of land in the North Atlantic region. It has few developed resources (and extracting them will be difficult and expensive), not many people, little infrastructure, and it’s not near anything particularly contentious. And yeah, it has some value as a radar base site, but we could do similar things from northeastern Canada and as for „monitoring the GIUK gap,“ well, Iceland would do just as well, probably better.
It is sad when world geopolitics are driven in no small part by the whims of Donald Trump, who best as I can tell saw a big chunk of land on some Mercator map and thought „wouldn’t it be cool if I was able to get that for the US and color it in <whatever color the US was on his childhood Mercator projection map, probably green>“
Might also teach the MAGA crowd that what they call ”just in our back yard” is actually closer to Denmark (as well as a number of European countries) than it is to the US.
Now do a satellite view.
Its 80% glacier for starters, so only twenty percent of that island is actually usable land with most of the fabled resources being buried under the 80%.
We already have a military presence there so it already maximally serves our defense interests.
And if the 80% melts and becomes 75% and some more resources become profitable for extraction, then American companies are the only ones with the know-how, tech, capital, and risk appetite that will be able to extract them. And Greenlanders will be happy to let them come in and share in the wealth generation.
Its morally repugnant and it’s pragmatically idiotic to pursue full ownership of a chunk of ice with 50k people that you are already getting maximum use out of.
The mineral wealth is not a thing. It’s buried under permafrost. We do not have the ability to get it out without spending 17-18x more on extraction than the minerals are worth. It’s a massive red herring.
Greenland minerals are about as useful to humanity as the asteroid belts minerals are. And would take the same amount of money to start extracting lol.
The United States already has a treaty which allows it full access for defense purposes. This is pure vanity for Trump. It’s like the Nobel Prize. He just wants it to make his pathetic self feel better.
The more people learn what the world looks like on a globe, the better. The more Americans just ask Greenland to be a partner in defense the better. They are a NATO partner. They are already willing and committed to help. No need for bullying and demands. Spend that energy, anger and resources instead on helping Ukraine defeat Russia and push them back. They are the enemy. This would be far more effective that posturing in Greenland. Having Ukraine as a NATO member would be telling and showing Russia that you really mean business. It would put the NATO threat 800kms (550 miles) from Putin’s doorstep. He will fear that more than quibbling over Greenland.
I guess if nothing else, and they piss off Denmark enough that they tell them to get out, they can always ask Canada to put a base in their far north…!
Oh…
the usa already has access to greenland, trump is just a whiny baby who wants to stroke his ego by increasing the size of his hellhole, while he runs it into the ground
Literally just saying anything to divert the news away from the epstien files
Did u realise the neighbourship between Russia and Alaska? There is another country: Canada, which is also a NATO’s member. As Greenland=Denmark=NATO. Where is the problem? Do they hide the Epstein files within the ice of Greenland?
Good map.
One thing I would add as a point of reference is Candian Forces station Alert in northern Canada. It is part of the arctic basing structure and relies heavily on Piffituk for resupply during the summer.
Anything happening in Greenland and its impact on Piffituk directly impacts Alert.
If only it was protected by a group of allied countries in the North Atlantic.
Maybe there could be some sort of treaty to help defend it
Trump doesn’t want Greenland for strategic reasons nor for its resources.
He wants Greenland because it’s big and looks even bigger on a Mercator projection map. It’s literally because he likes the size and doesn’t like being told no.
All the other explanations are just excuses and others trying to sanewash Trump’s lunacy.
Poland served as an excellent strategic position for the Nazi’s too
I think they’re anticipating climate change making it more livable and usable
Does Greenland help protect America’s boats? Yes, help control GIUK.
No, I watched Fox, and they showed how huge Greenland is, like the same size as the USA. That map is commie lies.
The GIUK Gap is referenced in the map here but not really explained. Maybe it was in the text of the article but I’ll toss it out there:
The GIUK gap is the series of somewhat narrow sea lanes between Greenland, Iceland, and the UK. It was one of the most important places in the world for NATO’s naval strategy during the cold war. NATO’s philosophy was to control these passages with air and naval bases in Greenland, Iceland, and Scotland to limit Soviet naval movement out of the North Sea.
It is definitely a very strategic place *that NATO already controls*
Did an ai write that title
he’s gonna do it. he’ll take it, mark my words. strategic positioning and mineral wealth are both secondary factors. the symbolic power of expanding US territory, on the 250th anniversary of the declaration of independence, for a guy like him, is immeasurable. it will cement his name in history books for all time. y’all don’t know it yet, but greenland will be american some day soon. anything and everything else trump does before or after that will be completely irrelevant – he’ll go down in history as the POTUS who acquired greenland.
It’s also a distraction from his ineptness handling the tariffs & economy, his grift of oil $ deposited in Qatar, Netanyahu genocide in Gaza and West Bank and attempts to cancel mid-term elections
Putin wants Trump to anger our NATO allies so much that they kick us out of Greenland.
Look im rather conservative but this is absolutely fucking retarded. The US Gov needs to leave of nations the fuck alone. Ive already been to Middle East and that shit sucked eggs…