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    Iran und die Türkei verlieren ihren Glauben – aus dem gleichen Grund


    Iran und die Türkei verlieren ihren Glauben – aus dem gleichen Grund

    https://open.substack.com/pub/kulturkampftr/p/iran-and-turkey-are-losing-their?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=j01e3

    Von Well_Socialized

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    1. 25162524K on

      If we ever make it far in to the future as humans, i hope they will be looking back at religion and are laughing at it.

      Religion is nothing but the ideas of a bunch of morons not willing to accept the realities in which they are living in.

      edit: its the year 2026, you literally have all the fucking information on any topic of your choosing at the tip of your fingertips. if you choose to not read and blindly follow others, you are a moron in my book.

    3. cobalt_blue_water on

      >Now, religion has worked as a reactionary force in Iran. When people rose up against the Shah, the clerics were able to ride out the protest movement and seize power in 1979, and they entrenched themselves through the brutal war with Iraq until 1988, but they clearly couldn’t make it stick in the long run.

      another lost soul who thinks reactionary means „someone who reacts“

      the rest of the text – i love the effort but for some reason you ended up writing an alternative reality, emphasizing on things that are not very significant in the chain of causality of recent turkish history but got away with it by reaching the same popular conclusion. there is really more to the whole of this subject than just 2 quotes and those are not even the most important ones.

      also idk if its the twitter generation but writers transforming into aphorism machine guns made a lot of long haul texts consist of paragraphs with no holistic flow, jumping from subject to another without really explaining the subjects they started or form connections between consecutive parts of the text. paragraphs look more like „scenes“ instead of structural conveniences, repeating the same thing over and over instead of expanding the main subject in a satisfactory way.

      generally made me feel like reading a tourist’s shallow version of how they see turkey after making a series of google searches or one of orhan pamuks or elif şafaks auto-orientalist books.

    4. Open-Put9354 on

      erdoğan gidince gençler geleneksel cumadan cumaya ramazandan ramazana türk tipi müslümanlığa geri döner

    6. Delicious_Stuff_90 on

      Commentler Iran ve Türkiye’nin yan yana gelmesine mi gıcık oldu yoksa AKP’nin bile kabul ettiği gerçekliğe mi?

    7. Mad_King on

      Some old farts are telling stories about other old farts. They tell young people to behave under harsh conditions that they themselves created, while enjoying the best time of their lives. If young people were able to see this clearly, they would eat the old farts alive. So, religions are actually serving old farts and the clergy in the name of God.

      Anlamayana Türkçesi:

      Bazı yaşlı bunaklar, başka yaşlı bunaklar hakkında hikâyeler anlatıyor. Genç insanlara, bizzat kendilerinin yarattığı sert koşullar altında uslu durmalarını söylüyorlar; bu sırada kendileri hayatlarının en iyi dönemini yaşıyor. Eğer gençler bunu net bir şekilde görebilseydi, o yaşlı bunakları canlı canlı yerlerdi. Dolayısıyla dinler, Tanrı adına aslında yaşlı bunaklara ve ruhban sınıfına hizmet ediyor.

    10. DefiantAsk4473 on

      Kimin inanıp kimin inanmadığı kimseyi ilgilendirmiyor aslında.

      Asıl sorun AKP’den sonra camiiler/kiliseler vs halk vergileriyle karşılanamaya devam mı edecek ? Diyanet halk vergileriyle fonlanılmaya devam mı edilecek ? Okullarda din dersleri hala empoze edilecek mi ?
      Kısaca : 100% laik bir ülke olabilecek miyiz sonunda ?

      Yoksa 99% müslüman halk olması veya tam tersi 1% müslüman bir halk olması vs vs bu oranlar mühim değil. Asıl mesela laiklik temellerinin tam anlamıyla gelmesi.

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